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What is Psoriasis Club ?
Psoriasis Club is a friendly on-line Forum where people with psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis can get together and share information, get the latest news, or just chill out with others who understand. It is totally self funded and we don't rely on drug manufacturers or donations. We are proactive against Spammers, Trolls, And Cyberbulying and offer a safe friendly atmosphere for our members.

So Who Joins Psoriasis Club? We have members who have had psoriasis for years and some that are newly diagnosed. Family and friends of those with psoriasis are also made welcome. You will find some using prescribed treatments and some using the natural approach. There are people who join but keep a low profile, there are people who just like to help others, and there are some who just like to escape in the Off Topic Section.

Joining Couldn't Be Easier: If you are a genuine person who would like to meet others who understand, just hit the Register button and follow the instructions. Members get more boards and privileges that are not available to guests.

OK So What Is Psoriasis?
Psoriasis is a chronic, autoimmune disease that appears on the skin. It occurs when the immune system sends out faulty signals that speed up the growth cycle of skin cells. Psoriasis is not contagious. It commonly causes red, scaly patches to appear on the skin, although some patients have no dermatological symptoms. The scaly patches commonly caused by psoriasis, called psoriatic plaques, are areas of inflammation and excessive skin production. Skin rapidly accumulates at these sites which gives it a silvery-white appearance. Plaques frequently occur on the skin of the elbows and knees, but can affect any area including the scalp, palms of hands and soles of feet, and genitals. In contrast to eczema, psoriasis is more likely to be found on the outer side of the joint.

The disorder is a chronic recurring condition that varies in severity from minor localized patches to complete body coverage. Fingernails and toenails are frequently affected (psoriatic nail dystrophy) and can be seen as an isolated symptom. Psoriasis can also cause inflammation of the joints, which is known as (psoriatic arthritis). Ten to fifteen percent of people with psoriasis have psoriatic arthritis.

The cause of psoriasis is not fully understood, but it is believed to have a genetic component and local psoriatic changes can be triggered by an injury to the skin known as Koebner phenomenon. Various environmental factors have been suggested as aggravating to psoriasis including stress, withdrawal of systemic corticosteroid, excessive alcohol consumption, and smoking but few have shown statistical significance. There are many treatments available, but because of its chronic recurrent nature psoriasis is a challenge to treat. You can find more information Here!

Got It, So What's The Cure?
Wait Let me stop you there! I'm sorry but there is no cure. There are things that can help you cope with it but for a cure, you will not find one.

You will always be looking for one, and that is part of the problem with psoriasis There are people who know you will be desperate to find a cure, and they will tell you exactly what you want to hear in order to get your money. If there is a cure then a genuine person who has ever suffered with psoriasis would give you the information for free. Most so called cures are nothing more than a diet and lifestyle change or a very expensive moisturiser. Check out the threads in Natural Treatments first and save your money.

Great so now what? It's not all bad news, come and join others at Psoriasis Club and talk about it. The best help is from accepting it and talking with others who understand what you're going through. ask questions read through the threads on here and start claiming your life back. You should also get yourself an appointment with a dermatologist who will help you find something that can help you cope with it. What works for some may not work for others

  Hello from soosieb99
Posted by: soosieb99 - Fri-20-02-2015, 15:28 PM - Replies (68)

I just thought I would introduce myself.  
I have had PPP for donkeys years and apart from a brief sojourn to the specialist some 20 years ago have always just put cream on to moisturise and just got on with life.  Over the last few years however, having got divorced and then found happiness together with lots of old family stresses and deaths etc. suddenly kerblam major breakout!  Instead of just a little on one foot I now have it majorly on both.  Slightest little bit of stress sets it off.  Am currently under specialist and having had light treatment and various creams I have now been told I need to get on Acitretin, which to be frank, scares me to death!  

Back on 6th December I last visited and was told I would be recalled in 4 to 6 weeks.  I had to have all the bloods taken in readiness ........... I am still waiting to see him and haven't even had an appointment yet!  I am still using steroid cream which he wants me to get off but when I do it flares up immediately.  I am not a happy bunny with it all.  But hey, I am also patient and will just wait; ringing occasionally of course to find out that they "have not forgotten me" lol.

So I have lots of questions, which will not doubt come out over time.  I have joined this forum because I thought I was the only person who suffers with this thing!  Everything is usually just down to me right! How wonderful to find that I am not alone in it.  (although I would prefer it if no one had it or that they find a cure!)

I look forward to chatting over time.

S

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  Fumaderm - questions.
Posted by: Angie - Fri-20-02-2015, 12:18 PM - Replies (108)

Hi all

Sorry to be a nuisance, I have a couple of quick questions. Think i have maybe asked one on the introduction thread, when I should have stared a new thread, in the right place.

Caroline I seen somewhere, you said about the rules to follow when taking fumaderm, (not sure rules is the right word you used but hopefully you know what I mean).  I have read about eating when taking them (certain foods, yoghurt etc) but apart from that I am not doing anything else different.  Did you mean things that interact with them or things to help the side effects? thanks.

Jiml, I looked at the info you had put on about the 16 week mark, thanks.  I have not found decent info on what levels should be or not. i.e lymphocytes etc.  Is this something you can help me with?

My bloods on Wednesday show Lymph at 0.8.  Are there others I should keep an eye on?  Not been feeling great this week since going up to 6 and wondered if it could be settling into that dose or i'm just a hypochondriac ! ha

Thanks for reading.

Angie Wave

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  In need of advice
Posted by: Lostsoul - Fri-20-02-2015, 00:49 AM - Replies (19)

I'm stuck in a big problemo which I can't find a reasonable answer to.
I've recently been referred back to light treatment but the hospital is over half an hour away, I don't drive And I rely on public transport I also have a 3 month old daughter. I'm also moving further away from where I live which doesn't have a train station nor busses that travel to where I need to go. The other thing is I'm going back to college in August. I'm struggling to deal with the fact my psoriasis is getting worse.

I need advice on what I shoud do as I feel like giving up with the treatment before it's even started for the fact of not being able to make my appointments.






Try and stay positive  Wall

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  Putting weight on with Enbrel
Posted by: evie - Fri-20-02-2015, 00:14 AM - Replies (12)

Hi, I am taking Embrel 50mg injections once per week, and I feel I am putting weight on. Is there anything I can do to counter act this? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

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  hello I'm new on here
Posted by: annette - Thu-19-02-2015, 18:24 PM - Replies (24)

I have had psoriasis for approx 15 years .I feel onset was either colouring my hair henna red or, treatment for fungal toe infection. I had a massive flair up after using dovabet,light treatment helped greatly.I have it under control at the moment using salysalic cream on my scalp and coconut oil on my patches (elbows and knees) I am now finding my hair is going grey!!!! (It's my age57)so I am thinking about colouring it has anyone any hint s or tips for me please.

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  Fumaderm advice wanted
Posted by: Kato - Thu-19-02-2015, 16:45 PM - Replies (84)

Hi All,

I am hoping someone might be able to give me some advice on Fumaderm.

To give you some background, I have had moderate widespread psoriasis for the last 6 years. It started as one small 'dot' on one arm and quickly spread pretty much everywhere (arms, legs, trunk, inside nose & ears, face, scalp, PPP on palms and soles). I have been prescribed around 15 steroid/vit D analog creams which have maintained my skin but never helped clear any of it up & of course didn't stop new patches from forming.

I have had two courses of UVB treatment, both of which compeltely cleared my skin but only for about a week after finishing each 37 session course. My psoriasis would be back to 'normal' within a month of finishing.

I went to see a new Dermatologist who agreed we needed to look at other options as it wasn't even really feasible for me to even apply the creams as I had SO many isolated patches, all of which were extremely red and inflamed.

We discussed the options available to me and decided to give Fumaderm a try. I started out on just 30mg a day and now 6 months later I have just increased my dose from 6x120mg (720mg total daily) up to 8x120mg (960mg total daily).

My skin has responded fantastically and pretty much all my old patches have gone, leaving only discoloured skin. However, I'm still getting a LOT of new small patches mainly around my hips and the top of the backs of my legs. My Derm advised me to go up to 8 per day if they hadn't cleared up.

I'm a little worried that this dose is VERY high but I have nothing to compare it to. My blood work is all fine but now I'm getting the horrendous gastric side effects again & would just generally like to know about other people's experiences.

Any advice appreciated!

Thanks :-)

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  Hi Everyone!
Posted by: Kato - Thu-19-02-2015, 16:23 PM - Replies (10)

Hi everyone :-)

Just to introduce myself, I was diagnosed with Psoriasis around 6 years ago having had no previous skin problems or family history of Psoriasis.

I do struggle to find enough information/advice on Psoriasis & treatments so I'm hoping this is the go to place!

Hopefully I might also be able to help anyone else from my experiences so far.

Kath

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  creams, and ointments
Posted by: karaokeking - Wed-18-02-2015, 13:02 PM - Replies (2)

I have been reading about the different pills some of you are on I have only been on skin cream. I would like to know what other members are using on there skin, and what results they are getting. As i have said when i first got ps 32 years ago i was put on that coal tar stuff, then for a lot of years i was on Dovobet, but these last few weeks i have been on Dovonex, and have stated it seems to be useless.
I have to say after reading a lot of your posts, that i have it only slightly. I have never ever got rid of it at all for for any period, i have kept it under control, but thats all.

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News Hospira launch biosimilar of Remicade in Europe
Posted by: Fred - Tue-17-02-2015, 17:16 PM - No Replies

Following on from India getting a biosimilar of Remicade last year, it's now also been launched in Europe by Hospira under the name Inflectra.

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Hospira, Inc, a world leader in the development of biosimilar therapies, today announced the launch of the first biosimilar monoclonal antibody (mAb), Inflectra (infliximab), in major European markets. Inflectra is licensed for the treatment of inflammatory conditions including rheumatoid arthritis (RA), psoriatic arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis, adult and paediatric Crohn's disease, adult and paediatric ulcerative colitis and plaque psoriasis.

Infliximab is a cornerstone treatment for many inflammatory diseases, with over 15 years' worth of clinical data and experience. Inflectra is a biosimilar medicine to the reference product, Remicade® (infliximab), and is the first biosimilar mAb to be approved by the European Commission (EC). A biosimilar developed in-line with EU requirements can be considered a therapeutic alternative to an existing biologic.

Remicade (infliximab) has been authorized in the EU since 1999 and recorded European sales of almost €2 billion in 2013. The savings generated by introducing competition in the marketplace could save the European healthcare system millions of Euros, with biosimilars expected to produce savings of over €20 billion by 2020.

"Inflectra has already been launched in Central and Eastern Europe, and some smaller Western European markets due to earlier patent expiry, and has already been prescribed to treat patients in all its licensed indications. We are delighted that the remaining European countries, including many of the major EU countries, will now benefit from the availability of Inflectra. This supports Hospira's commitment to provide patients with better access to high-quality, more affordable care," said Paul Greenland, Vice President Biologics, Hospira.

Inflectra received its license from the EC in September 2013, following adoption of the EMA Committee for Medicinal Products for Human Use (CHMP) positive recommendation for granting marketing authorization. Review by the EMA included detailed analysis of biophysical properties and safety, efficacy and tolerability data from an extensive preclinical and clinical trial program.

In a phase III randomized, double-blind study involving 606 patients, Inflectra met its primary endpoint of therapeutic equivalence to Remicade. In this study, using the ACR20 scoring system, 73.4% of patients receiving Inflectra achieved a greater than or equal to 20% improvement in RA symptoms after 30 weeks of treatment, compared with 69.7% treated with Remicade. In the same study, 42.3% of patients receiving Inflectra achieved a greater than or equal to 50% improvement in RA symptoms after 30 weeks of treatment (measured using the ACR50 scoring system), compared with 40.6% treated with Remicade.8 Comparable safety and tolerability data also demonstrated Inflectra's equivalence to Remicade. There were no marked differences in the immunogenicity profile of the two products up to 54 weeks, and the impact of anti-drug antibodies on efficacy and safety was comparable.

Inflectra is being launched in several major European markets, including Austria, Denmark, France, Germany, Greece, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Spain and Sweden. With the launch of the product in these new markets, Inflectra is now available in 24 European countries. Hospira's partner, Celltrion, has also submitted an application to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for biosimilar infliximab.


Source: hospira.com

India gets low cost biosimilar of Remicade

Remicade (infliximab)

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News VBL Therapeutics pulls VB-201 from psoriasis study
Posted by: Fred - Tue-17-02-2015, 17:00 PM - No Replies

VBL Therapeutics today announced it will no longer be continuing with developing its experimental inflammatory drug VB-201 to fight psoriasis after it failed to meet their primary endpoints, and the company does not plan to continue development of VB-201.

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VBL Therapeutics (Nasdaq:VBLT), a clinical-stage biotechnology company committed to the discovery, development and commercialization of first-in-class treatments for cancer, today announced that its Phase 2 studies evaluating lead Lecinoxoid compound VB-201 in patients with psoriasis and ulcerative colitis did not meet their primary endpoints. The Company does not plan to continue development of VB-201 in these indications.

"We continue to focus on advancing VB-111 into Phase 3 for recurrent glioblastoma (rGBM). We believe that this drug candidate has significant potential as an anti-angiogenic agent for the treatment of cancer and we look forward to initiating the trial," commented Dror Harats, M.D., Chief Executive Officer of VBL Therapeutics. "We are disappointed by the outcome of these Phase 2 studies in psoriasis and ulcerative colitis. Immune-inflammatory conditions are difficult-to-treat diseases with a limited array of effective treatments. We were honored to work with an excellent team of clinical investigators and would like to thank the patients who participated in the clinical studies for these drug candidates."

In a simultaneous press release, VBL also announced today that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) determined that VBL may proceed with a pivotal Phase 3 trial in rGBM and removed the clinical hold previously imposed on the study. VBL plans to initiate this trial in mid-2015 under a special protocol assessment with the FDA.

Psoriasis Study Details:

This Phase 2 randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study was designed to evaluate the safety and efficacy of VB-201 dosed at 80 mg or 160 mg daily for 24 weeks. The study evaluated 194 patients with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. The primary efficacy endpoint of the study was PASI 50, or the proportion of patients who achieve at least 50 percent improvement from baseline PASI score, at weeks 16 and 24.

No effect of VB-201 compared to placebo was observed on the primary or secondary endpoints at either dose level tested. The PASI 50 for VB-201 patients was 26.4% at 16 weeks and 34% at 24 weeks, with no significant difference between the 80 mg and 160 mg dose cohorts. The placebo PASI 50 at week 16 was 38%.

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  SSP or Quit???
Posted by: Brighteyes - Sun-15-02-2015, 22:36 PM - Replies (12)

Hello to everyone ( those who know me and those who have yet to become acquainted ).
It's a long story but I have had PPP for some time now. Managed (eventually) to stabilise on cyclosporine to the point where I got a full time job. But now I have been kicked off them by a new Dermatologist (another long story).
My dilemma at this point is that the new treatment proposed has the potential to take weeks to kick in, if indeed it does. I haven't been to work for a week. Deterioration has been swift to the point where I can walk no further than 50 yards.
Every morning I have to call in sick and I have been told I have to get sick notes to qualify for SSP. I was under the impression that my employer doesn't pay sick pay so is SSP different? Are they legally obliged to pay me it for 28 weeks? Only £81 a week I think but better than nothing I suppose.
I was originally thinking it was best just to give notice but am not sure now where I would stand ( metaphorically not physically Wink ).
Sorry for the convoluted post and if I have posted in the wrong section.

Heart

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  Tablets to help with psoriasis
Posted by: karaokeking - Sun-15-02-2015, 15:26 PM - Replies (7)

Hi. I just joined the forum last week.It has been very interesting reading all the different posts. As i said in my introduction i have had this problem for about 32 years. I have only ever had cream, and ointments to put on, and the doctor never ever sugested tablets. It´s only since i came onto this forum, that i ever heard of taking tablets to help with psoriasis.
So first i have seen different tablets been mentioned.Fumarates, Fumaderm, Acitretin, and i think Psorinov. So my question is firstly can i go to my doctor and tell him i want to try one of these tablets, or can he refuse me. By the way i live in the U/K. and the next question is which tablets are the best as it seems everyone is on different medication.

Also as i said in my introduction, i am at present in the Canarie Islands untill the end of June, and i am using Dovonex, But have read to keep out of the sun, while using it, which is quite difficult to say the least.

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  Joining in.
Posted by: Angie - Sun-15-02-2015, 15:17 PM - Replies (16)

Hi ,

I have been stalking this forum for quite a while now, following most threads , particularly Fumaderm, which when I get time I will start a post or add to a previous one.

My history of P - diagnosed about 31 years ago. First told it was warts on my elbows and treated with wart paint! (Can't remember the name) . Usual creams, ointments, hospital stays, puva, UVB , diet, holistic, magic creams from internet (which were full of steroids - obviously claiming to be natural). Aceitrin, cyclosporine, methotrexate and now Fumaderm.

Didn't really start on the tabs until November 2013 when my P became erythrodermic . Had tried Aceitrin previously but hair fell out rapidly. Thanks to that, I never wanted another tablet again.

November 2013 had no choice but to accept cyclosporine as 90% coverage and legs had ballooned due to inflammation . Got out of hospital (in time for Xmas) , on and off cyclo , ( was told due to the amount of UVB I had, had in past I would be unable to take cyclo for any length of time). Next was Mtx , hated them, side effects horrendous. Had a fight on my hands to get them to offer me Fumaderm, which I am currently taking.

Not sure of my psoriasis score . For about 28 years I lived with my psoriasis being severe and would get UVB 3 months of the year so I could go on holiday. Rest of time I just got on with it. My turning point was when my p became erythrodermic and I was told I have used up my lifetimes ray's, I decided to go down the tablets route.

So here I am, hoping to get some advice .  On 6 Fumaderm from yesterday and my skin is showing a little improvement - not much.  Certainly less active , flatter and less red, but still all over.  Side effects - not so good. Probably better leaving the details for the prescribed threads. Was really hoping for notable improvement 9 weeks in.

Anyway good to be here, looking forward to hearing your views.  And Hi GB , how you doing ?

Angle

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Lightbulb Avoid missed posts
Posted by: Fred - Sat-14-02-2015, 22:03 PM - Replies (1)

Have you ever made a new post only to find that someone has posted at the same time as you and you missed it?

Here's a little tip for you.

#1 Compose your post.

#2 Click "Preview Post"

#3 Scroll down and you will see Thread Review (Newest First)

That will show you the latest post made, so you may avoid missing a post whilst answering another. It won't always work because if someone posts the same time as you it won't show, but if it's a busy thread and you want to make sure you have seen the latest post it will help.

Click "Post Reply" and if your lucky you won't have missed a post that was made whilst you was posting.

I know what I'm on about.  Tongue

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News Menstrual cycle and psoriasis
Posted by: Fred - Thu-12-02-2015, 21:19 PM - No Replies

This is a snipit of an article ahead of publication that looked into the menstrual cycle and the skin, it found dermatoses that are exacerbated perimenstrually include acne, psoriasis, atopic eczema and irritant dermatitis, and possibly also erythema multiforme.

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Perimenstrual exacerbations of dermatoses are commonly recognized, yet our knowledge of the underlying pathophysiological mechanisms remains imperfect.

Research into the effects of oestrogen on the skin has provided evidence to suggest that oestrogen is associated with increases in skin thickness and dermal water content, improved barrier function, and enhanced wound healing. Research into the effects of progesterone suggests that the presence of various dermatoses correlates with peak levels of progesterone.

Dermatoses that are exacerbated perimenstrually include acne, psoriasis, atopic eczema and irritant dermatitis, and possibly also erythema multiforme.

Exacerbations occur at the peak levels of progesterone in the menstrual cycle. Underlying mechanisms include reduced immune and barrier functions as a result of cyclical fluctuations in oestrogen and/or progesterone. Autoimmune progesterone and oestrogen dermatitis are the best-characterized examples of perimenstrual cutaneous reactions to hormones produced during the menstrual cycle.

Source: onlinelibrary.wiley.com

*This is an early view ahead of publication, no funding known.

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News Beteflam patch for psoriasis accepted for review by Health Canada
Posted by: Fred - Thu-12-02-2015, 17:47 PM - No Replies

A patch for the treatment of psoriasis containing 0.1% betamethasone valerate has been accepted for review by Health Canada.

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Cipher Pharmaceuticals Inc today announced that the Beteflam Patch (previously called the Betesil® Patch) has been accepted for review by Health Canada. The Beteflam Patch is a novel, patent-protected, self-adhesive medicated plaster containing 0.1% betamethasone valerate, for the treatment of inflammatory skin conditions such as chronic plaque psoriasis ("CPP").

Topical corticosteroids remain the primary treatment for steroid-responsive inflammatory skin diseases, including mild to moderate CPP. Occlusion with plastic film dressings is a widely accepted procedure to enhance their efficacy, especially in the treatment of psoriasis. The Beteflam Patch is applied once-daily to the affected region and may be cut to fit the particular size and shape of the psoriatic lesion thereby reducing potential contact of the steroid with healthy areas of skin. The occlusive format of the Beteflam Patch provides a consistent distribution, delivery and absorption of the active ingredient and enhances the potency of the corticosteroid.  The patch also helps to moisturize the skin, which accelerates healing and provides a protective barrier that reduces local trauma to the lesion due to scratching and prevents transfer of fluids from the lesion onto clothing.

"Chronic plaque psoriasis is the most prevalent form of psoriasis, found in about 90% of subjects with the disease, and can profoundly impact the quality of life for patients," said Shawn O'Brien, President & Chief Executive Officer of Cipher. "If approved, the Beteflam Patch will represent a promising new product in our growing Canadian dermatology portfolio and an attractive treatment option for Canadians who suffer from this disease."

Cipher licensed the Canadian rights to the Beteflam Patch in 2012 from Institut Biochimique SA ("IBSA"), a pharmaceutical company based in Switzerland. The efficacy and safety of the product has been established in two successful phase III trials and one successful phase IV trial conducted by IBSA. IBSA recently published positive results from a large non-inferiority study, which compared the product to Dovobet (betamethasone plus calcipotriol), a commonly prescribed combination product containing a corticosteroid and a vitamin D analogue.

Source: cipherpharma.com

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  Coconut oil on prescription
Posted by: Grizzly Bear - Wed-11-02-2015, 21:17 PM - Replies (5)

Evening all,

for those in the UK, do you know if you can get coconut oil prescribed from the GP or derm doc please ?

Thanks gang

Happy scratching

GB

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  Methotrexate Injection
Posted by: Fred - Mon-09-02-2015, 09:43 AM - Replies (112)

Well this is it time to bite the bullet and go onto the poison Methotrxate, I didn't want to do this but I'm left with no option as Stelara has now failed on me. You can read my old threads about using Stelara here: Stelara 16 Months On. and Stelara round two I will still be keeping the latter one going as I'm still using Stelara, but I thought I would start a new one about Methotrexate.

If you look at some of my comments about methotrexate you will see I'm not a fan, but I'm stuck in a place at the moment where the psoriatic arthritis is taking over my life again and it's no fun. There are no other treatments available to me at the moment and even if there was I couldn't take them as I've just taken 90mg of Stelara, so I need something to try and slow down the onslaught of psoriatic arthritis.

Last time I tried methotrexate was around the mid 80s when living in the UK, the way you was treated for psoriatic arthritis in those days was appalling. I was told to take 8 methotrexate pills a week all in one go, they just kept on throwing them at my via repeat prescription and I can only remember having one blood test. After about six months of being as sick as a dog all the time with constant headaches and weird feelings going on that made me feel so grumpy I stopped taking it, I continued with loads of pain killers and ant-inflamatories for years until one day I was completely locked up and couldn't move.

By now I was living in France and was sent to hospital where they put me on the bio's and I got my life back, but now the bio's have failed. so as they know I'm against the use of methotrexate, we are trying a low does 5mg every week for 3 months to see if we can get the psoriatic arthritis down.

So this my journey:

I've had a blood test and all is well, so today the nurse came and made the first injection. I've also been told to take 5mg folic acid tomorrow (I'm not exactly sure what that does as I haven't researched it yet so maybe someone will now?) Friday the nurse will come back for another blood test. From there we are going with 5mg methotrexate every Monday, 5mg folic acid every Tuesday, and blood test every Friday for three months.

I will update as I go if there is anything to report.

Psoriasis Score: 9
Psoriatic Arthritis Score: 33
Feeling shit and miserable.

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  Hello from karaokeking
Posted by: karaokeking - Sat-07-02-2015, 16:42 PM - Replies (7)

Hi Everyone. I am from the U/K, and i am 74 years old. I have had psoriasis since i was 32. I first went on the coal tar ointment for quite a lot of years. It was messy and stained all your clothes, as well as your body. It looked as though i had been punched black and blue. After years on that prescription i went on Dovobet, that seemed not so bad, but the doctor told me i had been on it to long and that there was a danger of it thining my skin, what ever that meant. Anyway he has now put me on two different options. I have a tube of Betamethason valerate 0.1%W/W cream, and tubes of Dovobet ointment. The diference with the two tubes is one is a cream and the other is an ointment, which means the cream sorts of rubs into the skin, where as the ointment is more thicker, like vasoline, and tends to stay on your body longer. Ivé been on these for about a Month, with just the same outcome as the Dovobet. I don´t have it to severe i can still put a swimming costume on, plus i go to Tenerife for the Winter, so of course the sun helps quite a lot.

Now what i would like to know is the tablets that some of you are taking. Did you have to ask the doctor for these or, did he suggest them to you, and can you get them on prescription in the U/K. Thanks.

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  [Split From] Stelara round two
Posted by: D Foster - Fri-06-02-2015, 20:11 PM - Replies (50)

EDIT By Fred: This thread has been split from Stelara round two as it was going off topic.

(Fri-06-02-2015, 11:20 AM)Caroline Wrote:
(Fri-06-02-2015, 09:27 AM)D Foster Wrote:
(Fri-06-02-2015, 07:46 AM)Caroline Wrote: I still don't agree with you Dave.  Big Grin  There are still better ways to go.

I took MTX for 9 years ,6 by mouth and 3 by self injection and even though I am on 90mg of Stelara the relief for my PsA was much better on MTX.The side effects were not good towards the end of the tablets then on injection that settled down but built up again so I came off it however for the P it never cleared it but as I said for the PsA yes it was good. I can think of many other treatments that are worse and if you are very careful and monitor it then it is OK , PsA is extremely painful and I am lucky because I am not as bad as Fred.I take Tramadol and would argue that this is as bad as MTX in many ways especially as it only masks the pain leaving the joints alone which MTX does effect. A catch 22 situation prevails so where do you go ,it's just a matter of trying to play it safe as you can to get some relief.

I took MTX for three weeks. After that three weeks, there was only one thing in my mind. "I don't wanna die so young, I must get rid of this stuff"....
So I had the luck to stumble upon DMF, which you have not used Smile, upto now I am very lucky with that.
As far as I am aware Caroline DMF is not approved in UK though I will stand to be corrected, I have been looking at it and it would appear to be not fully understood how it works . Do you have blood checks to make sure that after taking it everything is OK ?
It appears to be very good at removing mould from leather ! I took Cyclosporine and that had the same effect on me as MTX had on you , what works for one does not work for another as we all react in a different way.  There are not many treatments that I have not had over the many years I have had this dam problem ,I had one on a trail that I cannot remember what it was called that caused my toe nails to grow through the side of my toe and that was quite painful.

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