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irishrover Offline
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Gender: Male
Location: Dublin
Treatment: Fumaderm
#1
Mon-30-05-2016, 14:25 PM
Hi everyone,

Only recently came across this website and only signed up this morning.
 
I've had P for as long as I can remember, I'm 27 now, I've been on steroid creams, had UV and tried whites tar paste with varying degrees of success but invariably my P would come back stronger than ever after a while.

Recently (7 weeks ago) started on Fumaderm, starting to see some minor improvements now I think, although my moisturising regime is very good at present so could be down to this. I have experienced very little by the way of side effects I have to say, although now and again my bowels are a bit looser and I am a bit gassy! 

Currently on 4 * 120mg per day and due to visit my derm again on the 7th of June.

Glad to read about everybody's experience.

Any input/insights are more than welcome!!
Fred Offline
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Gender: Male
Location: France
Psoriatic Arthritis Score: 1
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Treatment: Bimzelx / Coconut Oil
#2
Mon-30-05-2016, 14:32 PM
Hello Irishrover  Welcome to Psoriasis Club.

We have a few members using Fumaderm and it's equivalent and I'm sure the DMF gang will be able to give you a lot of insights.

Love your part of the world, holidayed there 4 times 70s - 80s and went there for our honeymoon.

Enjoy the forum and if you venture into [Group Specific] you will find I'm the sensible one.  Smile

Regards.

Fred.
Caroline Offline
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Location: In between the tulips
Psoriasis Score: 3
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Treatment: Got back to DMF slow release
#3
Mon-30-05-2016, 15:21 PM
Hi Irishrover,

Welcome to Psoriasisclub. Hope you will have a nice time with us.

Let me introduce myself, I am one of the DMF-gang, though not on Fumaderm.

4x120 mg and you are seeing improvements, that looks good already.
Fumaderm, or lets call it DMF, is a slow burner. It takes a long time but is able to clear you from Psoriasis very well.
Yes your bowels are a bit looser and bubbly, but that will finally become less, but perhaps not go away fully.
On the forum a lot is written on DMF, search for "dimethylfumarate" and you will find a lot of info and personal experiences.

Taking DMF with a meal, yoghurt and combining it with drinking much water, makes it easier.
Do keep an eye on your blood counts, certainly the lymphocytes in this starting period with the medication. The lymph's probably will go down a bit, but it will come back after a while to an acceptable level with most people.

So take it easy, the result will come.

cheers,
Caroline
jiml Offline
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Gender: Male
Location: Norwich England
Psoriasis Score: 3
Treatment: Skilarence 5x120mg a day
#4
Mon-30-05-2016, 15:54 PM (This post was last modified: Mon-30-05-2016, 17:39 PM by jiml.)
Hi again nice to see you have started a thread .... I have already welcomed you on the chatting thread [Group Specific] so will just say I will follow your thread with great interest . And say good to know it's working for you , and yes I'm partial to the odd pint of Guinness 15
Jim
irishrover Offline Author
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Treatment: Fumaderm
#5
Mon-30-05-2016, 22:28 PM
Thanks all.

Bloods are being monitored by my derm on a monthly basis. Hopefully all goes well on that front!

How long have people been on Fumaderm then? 
How long did it take for you to get clear on it?
What do people find the best moisturiser?

I notice that coffee and pork tends to make my P worst, particularly coffee! 

Sorry for all the questions, ha...
Fred Offline
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#6
Mon-30-05-2016, 22:31 PM
(Mon-30-05-2016, 22:28 PM)irishrover Wrote: What do people find the best moisturiser?

I notice that coffee and pork tends to make my P worst, particularly coffee! 

Sorry for all the questions, ha...

Ask away it's why we are here.

I'm a big fan of Coconut Oil as a moisturiser.

Never noticed anything make it worse apart from stress or damp weather.
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#7
Mon-30-05-2016, 23:15 PM
Hello Rover,

I'm waiting for an appointment for the hospital...the doctors says it will take about 16 weeks.  I have had a very long gap (talking years here) but im hoping to try the fumaderm.

The folks on here are very knowledgeable and friendly.  So hello, and enjoy.

Fifty
jiml Offline
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Treatment: Skilarence 5x120mg a day
#8
Mon-30-05-2016, 23:47 PM
(Mon-30-05-2016, 22:28 PM)irishrover Wrote: Thanks all.

Bloods are being monitored by my derm on a monthly basis. Hopefully all goes well on that front!

How long have people been on Fumaderm then? 
How long did it take for you to get clear on it?
What do people find the best moisturiser?

I notice that coffee and pork tends to make my P worst, particularly coffee! 

Sorry for all the questions, ha...

keep the questions coming  Big Grin

Glad to see you are being monitored monthly that is in my opinion is very important, I have my bloods monitored monthly as well and record on here the levels so I can see if there is a trend either up or down to enable me to adjust the dose if the lymphocyte count drops below the normal readings .

I have been on Fumaderm for over 4 years now and have been relatively clear most of that time.....
I'm on 4 X 120ml Fumaderm tablets a day, I went through the normal  build up procedure with the tablets up to 6 a day....then levelled off for a while before starting to reduce the dose to see how low I could go without the psoriasis starting to return.....
I got down to three tablets and psoriasis started to reappear .....so upped to four a day and have stuck on four

Reducing if the blood levels dropped too low and when they recover up the dose again

I wasn't on the forum when I started on Fumaderm and didn't used to record things so I'm guessing really when I say I think I had reached maximum dose before my skin fully cleared .....I remember it was slow .

But we are all different and some take a long while to clear and others Clear before reaching the maximum dose

As far as a moisturiser, I go with good quality virgin coconut oil ( Fred got me started on that and it's very good and easily absorbed without being messy

I haven't noticed any food or drink making a difference to my psoriasis, I eat and drink anything I like
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#9
Tue-31-05-2016, 01:35 AM
Welcome Irishrover!

I haven't found anything that seems to make my psoriasis worse, but I haven't really cut back on anything to see if it helps or not either.

I've never been on Fumaderm, but we have quite a few members with lots of experience with it and there is a lot of information to be found here.
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Treatment: Got back to DMF slow release
#10
Tue-31-05-2016, 05:35 AM
(Mon-30-05-2016, 22:28 PM)irishrover Wrote: Thanks all.

Bloods are being monitored by my derm on a monthly basis. Hopefully all goes well on that front!

How long have people been on Fumaderm then? 
How long did it take for you to get clear on it?
What do people find the best moisturiser?

I notice that coffee and pork tends to make my P worst, particularly coffee! 

Sorry for all the questions, ha...

DMF is already very old. Almost 60 years ago, dr Schweckendieck started to experiment with it in Germany on himself being a psoriasis sufferer, with good results. Fumaderm was later developed in Germany as a therapy and about 30 years ago enhanced in a different product in the Netherlands which has a slow release function.
In the mean time thousands of people have been treated with this product with very good results.

It depends on the person how fast it clears, some go quickly and some slow, also the nr of pills to stay clear differs very much, some only need one a day, some eight or even more (this is only possible with the Dutch version).

It appears that products with pyrodextrose and nuts, like peanuts, have a bad effect on your psoriasis. That is because those products in some way interfere with your energy cycle.
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