Will there ever be a psoriasis cure?

[Fred]

After reading a conversation here: RE: Hey fellow sufferers I thought it would be interesting to start a new poll.

Question: Do you think there will ever be a cure for psoriasis? (I'm talking cure as in it's gone from the whole world and will never come back as that is a cure to me)

You can vote in the poll above (open to guests too) Members can also add comments in this thread.

[jiml]

It will never happen there may well be a cure developed but it won't be available worldwide.
There are drugs to cure many diseases available but it depends where you live whether you will get them

[Caroline]

Close Jim

I think there is already a cure.
I even think I know where it is.
I even are in the situation that I can access and try it.
But.... I am too chicken to try it, as I am so happy with my current medication.

[Fred]

It will never happen there may well be a cure developed but it won't be available worldwide.
There are drugs to cure many diseases available but it depends where you live whether you will get them

Good point, to be classed as a cure it needs to be made available to all.

I think there is already a cure.

Nope.

I even think I know where it is.

And you don't share.

I even are in the situation that I can access and try it.
But.... I am too chicken to try it.

That says to me it may be a cure but it could ruin your body as you have some concernes. A cure is fine but if it makes you have other problems then no it's not a cure.

[Kat]

I don't know. I'd like to think there will be, but if there is I think it's still far off into the future.

The older I get, the more impressed I am at how far some things in the medical field have come but I'm also surprised at how much they still do not know.

[Caroline]

I already shared it long time ago RE: Back Into Hell , would certainly not withhold it from you.

Don't fill in please why I wouldn't want to give it a try, certainly not because it would ruin my body, as the chance of that is close to zero.
No, the point is that I fear that it might not work for me, while my current medication does work very well.
There may certainly come a point or a moment that I may give it a try.

[Quest4Cure]

I don't know. I'd like to think there will be, but if there is I think it's still far off into the future.

The older I get, the more impressed I am at how far some things in the medical field have come but I'm also surprised at how much they still do not know.

In my experience today it's hard to trust doctors. I have had way to many serious mishaps from the time I had gallstones at 19 when it took 8 years and 10 docs to find what was causing my heart attack symptoms. And that's the start at 19. I'm I my 60 ... Could write a book.....

[Kat]

I don't know. I'd like to think there will be, but if there is I think it's still far off into the future.

The older I get, the more impressed I am at how far some things in the medical field have come but I'm also surprised at how much they still do not know.

In my experience today it's hard to trust doctors. I have had way to many serious mishaps from the time I had gallstones at 19 when it took 8 years and 10 docs to find what was causing my heart attack symptoms. And that's the start at 19. I'm I my 60 ... Could write a book.....

I think we (rightfully) expect more from doctors than they think we should. The good and bad about getting older is that you realize doctors aren't some know it all person, they are human and make mistakes BUT, those mistakes are costly and painful at times to their patients. I'll take a doctor that says "I don't know" and willing to help search for answers anytime over one that will diagnose a problem just to make you feel like they are doing something.

[Thunder]

Hi Guys!  

 
 Maybe there already is?  I was just reading this thread and then I looked down and saw this similar thread....(at the bottom of this page)   "New cure I think no one knows about!" by marcus22405.  Fred lists the ingredients of this product.  The BHT caught my eye.  I've seen this BHT before, years ago, claimed to be an antiviral.  I never paid it much attention back then.  Anyone ever contact the poster, to see how he is doing?  If psoriasis is indeed a virus, it would explain why it worked for him.  I did a quick search of BHT and here's what I found...

 "BHT’s Use as an Antiviral

 A little over 25 years ago a paper was published in the journal Science showing that BHT, a common food preservative, could inactivate herpes simplex and other lipid-coated viruses in lab dishes. Two years later another paper in the same journal reported similar results, but this time in live animals – dietary BHT could prevent chickens from dying of Newcastle disease. Like herpes simplex, NDV (the virus that causes Newcastle disease) is lipid-enveloped – its nucleic acid core is sheathed in a fatty membrane. Viruses of this type require an intact membrane to be infective. BHT seems to work against such viruses by disrupting their viral membranes.

In the chicken study cited above, the amount of BHT needed to inhibit NDV turned out to be equal to the amount already present in chicken feed as an additive, i.e., 100 to 200 parts per million of total diet. Assuming a comparable result for humans and a total food intake of about 2 kilograms per day, this would mean that 200 to 400 milligrams of BHT ingested daily should be adequate to protect most people from infection by herpes and other lipid-coated viruses.

Inspired by early scientific reports on the antiviral activity of BHT, a number of people suffering from herpes began to experiment on themselves in the late 1970s. As described in several books published a few years later, the BHT experimenters discovered that a daily dose of 250 to 1000 mg resulted in rapid recovery from herpes eruptions with no recurrences.

Studies performed since then have confirmed the activity of BHT against many different human and animal viruses, including such members of the herpes family as CMV (cytomegalovirus), pseudorabies and genital herpes. BHT appears to inhibit infectivity of HIV, the AIDS virus, although contradictory results have also been reported. A protective effect of BHT against the development of influenza infection has been shown. The mechanism involved may have to do with the fact that BHT is a highly potent, membrane-active antioxidant as well as a membrane fluidizer. It’s known that reactive oxygen species (ROS) play a role in the pathogenesis of viral infections – including RNA viruses such as influenza, DNA viruses such as hepatitis B, and retroviruses such as HIV – and it’s been suggested that antioxidants may be useful as therapeutic agents in such infections.

If BHT is so effective against lipid-enveloped viruses, why don’t doctors prescribe it for their patients? The answer is that almost none of the controlled studies on the antiviral properties of BHT have been performed on humans; most of the experiments thus far have been conducted in lab dishes (in vitro) or in animals. A human clinical trial of BHT cannot be performed because the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved BHT for use only as a food preservative, not as a medicine. But that hasn’t stopped some people from using BHT on their own to treat herpes or other viral conditions.

In the past, safety concerns have been sometimes raised about BHT because of its reputed toxicity when given to rats in massive doses – doses much larger than those usually consumed for their antiviral effect. On the other hand, 25 years is long enough for any adverse effects as well as positive benefits to have shown up in humans. Many individuals – including my friend Roger, whom I’ve known since high school – have been supplementing with BHT on a regular basis for years at a time. Roger looks pretty healthy to me these days, but I phoned him anyway to press him for details on his BHT experience.

Roger first began taking BHT in 1984 after reading about it in Pearson and Shaw’s groundbreaking book 3. Initially he took about 1 gram per day because he was buying BHT in bulk at the time and larger amounts were easier to measure out than smaller ones. Later he was able to obtain BHT in capsules containing 250 mg per cap, and from that point on he took 250 mg every day for 6 to 7 years. Not surprisingly, during this period he remained completely free of herpes eruptions. More surprising is that he still remains herpes-free to this day, 10 years after his last dose of BHT. Around 3 years ago Roger had a comprehensive physical exam, including blood work. His physician told him that no antibodies to the herpes simplex virus could be found in his system.

Today Roger’s health is generally excellent, with no indication that his years of supplementing with BHT have harmed him in any way. The only adverse effect he ever encountered happened early on, while he was still experimenting with the size of the dose. Roger found that taking 3 grams of BHT each day resulted in dizziness and disorientation, which quickly disappeared when he cut his dose back to 1 gram per day. No adverse effects were seen thereafter.

Of course, a sample of one doesn’t constitute much of a survey. I needed to consult a larger database, so I turned to Steven Fowkes, resident guru at the Cognitive Enhancement Research Institute (CERI) in Menlo Park, California and co-author of Wipe Out Herpes with BHT. Steve Fowkes was unequivocal in his judgment. In the decades since BHT first arrived on the supplement scene, Steve hasn’t heard of any adverse reactions other than two minor ones. First, BHT can cause hives in some people who are sensitive to it. Second, BHT can cause a temporary decrease in blood clotting when people first begin taking it in substantial doses.

Allergic sensitivities to food additives such as dyes and preservatives have been known for some time but the role of these additives in precipitating chronic urticaria (hives) or other symptoms is still a matter of debate. Only a few cases over the years have identified low-level BHT intake as the sole cause of hives, so this reaction is not likely to be very common; however, it may well become more common if provoked by large doses of BHT. Fortunately, the condition tends to clear up after BHT use is halted.

As for the transient blood-thinning effect, Steve cautioned that people who have never taken BHT before should acclimatize themselves by starting out with small doses (less than 250 mg for the first day, if possible) and ramping up gradually over the course of a week; there is a special need for caution among those who are taking anticoagulants at the same time. In no case should the final dose exceed 1 gram per day without medical supervision. BHT’s anticlotting effect will diminish within 2 days in any event, unless extremely high doses (around 5 grams per day or higher) are being taken.

But what about liver toxicity? BHT gets metabolized in the liver, so won’t taking large amounts compromise liver function? Steve’s response was that he has spoken with literally hundreds of people who have successfully treated themselves for herpes with BHT. So long as a dose level of 1 gram per day was not exceeded, no cases of hepatic injury (as determined by pathologically high serum levels of the liver enzymes ALT and AST) have yet been reported by this group.

Unfortunately, some people taking BHT will find that not even 1 gram per day is sufficient to eradicate herpes. Rather than increasing the dose to more than a gram per day, Steve suggests maintaining the BHT level while combining it with other supplements. For example, the combination of BHT with hypericin (from St. John’s Wort) is a synergistic antiviral combination, more effective than BHT alone. To determine an appropriate dose level, hypericin intake should be ramped up gradually from 1 mg per day until an effective dose is reached, usually 10 mg per day or less. Steve also recommended pulsing the hypericin at the effective dose level, i.e., using it for about a week at a time with time off between dosing episodes. Because hypericin can cause photosensitivity of the skin, sun exposure should be limited to half the usual daily amount during and after hypericin intake. One of the nice features of BHT is that it tends to inhibit any oxidative stress induced by hypericin; for this reason, Steve feels that anyone taking hypericin should always take BHT with it.

After talking with Steve Fowkes and reviewing the scientific literature, I’ve concluded that the benefits of taking BHT seem to greatly outweigh the risks. In the process of researching this article I was reminded of a fundamental principle of toxicology first enunciated around 500 years ago by Paracelsus, the great Renaissance physician and alchemist: “All substances are poisons; there is none which is not a poison. The correct dose differentiates a poison from a remedy.” Or in the present case, “the correct dose differentiates a remedy from a food additive.” "

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More stuff for Caroline to read.  

[D Foster]

It depends on how you define a "cure" ,I think that in the next ten years there will be options to eliminate many different medical problems at the point of conception , I also think that while there are a large number of people suffering from any medical problems that have the potential to generate lots of profit then more and more sophisticated drugs will be made and there is the possibility that these will continue to improve so very little in the way of side effects are produced.
As for the medical profession ,I have very little faith in the vast majority of them and take everything that they say with a large pinch of salt. This comes from personal experience and they will always stick together to protect themselves ,the NHS is not a national organisation and a large part of it is run as personal little empires .