[split] Apremilast Cowsaregreat

[Kat]

Regarding weight I totally agree. I think it's very personal and only matters if a person is happy. In my case I do know that I need to lose some weight to be healthier and happier.

I wasn't disagreeing with Caroline but was curious as to if there was any documented research that shows a correlation between psoriasis and being overweight. I've gained weight since being diagnosed and my psoriasis is better now and I currently am not on meds for psoriasis which is another reason I was curious.

I often have different opinions than others on some things, but that's all it is, an opinion. I'm the first person to say I don't know what I'm talking about.

[mataribot]

I think what the nurse (or whoever) was trying point out is their is correlation between obesity and scaring in the liver. But correlations doesn't imply causality. To top it off, 25 mg isn't a sustainable dose of MTX. You'll would have needed a liver biopsy within two years anyways.

The nurse or whoever, cares more about the 'cost' rather then their patients. They should have never disclosed that information (about obesity) - it wasn't necessary.

[Caroline]

Already long ago I have written about the importance of the energy cycle. The problems in the energy cycle is seen by some doctors as the reason that a product like DMF works. And as common medicine still doesn’t know what the cause is of psoriasis, that reasoning is still very logical. It is using common reasoning completed with well known science, about the cytric acid cycle.
This was in the thread: Dimethylfumarates and Psoriasis

My doctor, whom I have spoken a lot about psoriasis, and I occasionally still talk with him despite he is now pensioned. Well he states that a mitochondrial cause for psoriasis is very likely. Even more, mitochondrial causes can be on the basis of more diseases that are chronic and where we still don’t know the cause. Logical reasoning seems to point at this.

Therefore my derived statement that also overweight may influence this. I think it may be very logical. And I know that loosing weight is far from easy…

And yes…. Stress can lead to psoriasis, with me too… but it is a trigger, not a cause, the trigger somehow tilts something sensitive in our bodies into a wrong state.

Also if you view the cause to be in the cells, it is easier to explain why the approach of Alan works, his approach specifically has to do with energy.

Sofar my thoughts. I am not trying to force anyone into losing weight, I am only adding up what I know and what I see in developments and science.

[Kat]

Already long ago I have written about the importance of the energy cycle. The problems in the energy cycle is seen by some doctors as the reason that a product like DMF works. And as common medicine still doesn’t know what the cause is of psoriasis, that reasoning is still very logical. It is using common reasoning completed with well known science, about the cytric acid cycle.
This was in the thread: Dimethylfumarates and Psoriasis

My doctor, whom I have spoken a lot about psoriasis, and I occasionally still talk with him despite he is now pensioned. Well he states that a mitochondrial cause for psoriasis is very likely. Even more, mitochondrial causes can be on the basis of more diseases that are chronic and where we still don’t know the cause.  Logical reasoning seems to point at this.

Therefore my derived statement that also overweight may influence this. I think it may be very logical. And I know that loosing weight is far from easy…

And yes…. Stress can lead to psoriasis, with me too… but it is a trigger, not a cause, the trigger somehow tilts something sensitive in our bodies into a wrong state.

Also if you view the cause to be in the cells, it is easier to explain why the approach of Alan works, his approach specifically has to do with energy.

Sofar my thoughts. I am not trying to force anyone into losing weight, I am only adding up what I know and what I see in developments and science.

As you know, I don't understand a lot of the science when it comes to these discussions, but I do enjoy learning and getting opinions from others. I do think that being overweight has affected a lot of my health issues. Would I have them anyway? Probably most of them I think although not all of them. I know you aren't trying to force anyone to lose weight Just answering questions and stating what you have learned and also your opinion on some things. For me, these conversations are what we do best here, share, learn and not take things personal. I continue to learn new things, even at my advanced age.

[mataribot]

My psoriasis was far worse when I was 8% body fat. When I got married, I gained weight and my psoriasis improved a bit until I started systematic treatment. Seems to me my psoriasis comes back with vengeance when I drop treatment. Maybe there is something to that.

[Fred]

Let's not forget this is a thread about Cowsaregreat's journey on Otezla (apremilast)

[Kat]

Let's not forget this is a thread about Cowsaregreat's journey on Otezla (apremilast) 

Well I did suggest moving my earlier post to a thread called psoriasis and weight. Don't know if you want to move some of these or we can start a new thread for that.

[Fred]

Let's not forget this is a thread about Cowsaregreat's journey on Otezla (apremilast) 

Well I did suggest moving my earlier post to a thread called psoriasis and weight.    Don't know if you want to move some of these or we can start a new thread for that. 

So you did, sorry Kat I missed that and I'll be honest and say I didn't read all the posts about weight.

I think I'll split this thread as it is going off topic, then Cowsaregreat can continue talking about Otezla (apremilast)

You and anyone else are more than welcome to start a new thread called "psoriasis and weight" if you wish and I encourage you to do so.