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Artemie's journey with AIP Paleo diet and supplements

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Artemie's journey with AIP Paleo diet and supplements
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#1
Wed-08-01-2020, 12:09 PM
So, this thread is for everybody who wants to follow my new journey with trying to heal psoriasis through diet and supplements. Also for myself; to follow my progress.
After failing on both Humira ( depression, a much reported side-effect ) and Stelara ( floored for a week per month with heavy flu symptoms, not to mention recuperation time )

on the 22th of july 2019 I began leaving out nightshade foods ( tomato, peppers and potatoes ) and gluten ( grains, pasta ).
But I did eat a lot of ricecakes, nuts and seeds )  
This is the Pagano diet; Healing Psoriasis the natural way. Supplements; slippery elm bark tea and Safflower Petal tea.

Lost weight quickly but the psoriasis didn't subside; it just got worse.

on the 25 of september 2019 I've started doing the AIP Paleo diet. That's like Paleo only stricter. All the known allergens are left out ( tho shellfish is allowed ) 
no seeds
no nuts
( no glory )
no nightshades, grains or oils based on seeds and nuts )
Anyway, you can easily look this up. Heaven knows I did just that bordering obsession Smile  

took a standard probiotic, stopped the Slippery Elm but still continuing the Safflower Petal tea. Slippery Elm is supposed to create a muceous barrier on your intestinal walls. The AIP Paleo diet says no to this. 
Other supplements; some Vitamine D, Fish oil capsules and digestive enzymes.

AIP Paleo is all about not letting food particles ( those on the no list ) not slip into your bloodstream. The idea is that you eliminate those foods as it is said that the intestinal walls of a person with a autoimmune disease are compromised. Or you can call it Leaky Gut, or hightnened permeability of the intestinal walls.

This is all in what is called the 'elimination stage'  after which some foods can be reintroduced slowly and properly monitored. I have no idea how to do that yet, because symptoms are not immediately like in painfull autoimmune diseases like Psoriais Arthritis and such. 
In the USA such diets are already being prescribed, albeit slowly and science is only just taking this more seriously.



Also, alcohol is not allowed in the 'elimination stage'  
This was a hard one for me but I've managed not to drink since the first of January this year. And boy do I looooove my wine and cider.

So basically you could say I've begun this journey in earnest as of the first day of 2020.

I'm now down 9,5 kilo, which is nice.

As of today I'm taking an exta supplement; the probiotic Bacillus Coagulens. I read some interesting scientific reports on 'rheumathoid arthritis and this probiotic, where the results reported where mentioned as "borderline statistically improvement" Apparantly it takes care of harmfull intestinal bacterial growth and because it's spore forming will survive stomach acid and manages to do it's magic in your intestines.

Did I mention I lost weight? Smile  Not that I was much overweight but occurance and severity of psoriasis is higher in overweight people, I've read in my googling.

P scale; not so good yet. Daily showering, steel wire brush and calcipotriol salve to ease the scaliing.

Anyway, this is the first post, let me know if there are any questions and I'll update here when I get a chance.
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#2
Wed-08-01-2020, 12:28 PM
Great start Artemie and congratulations on having the will power to do this, after the failure of modern medication to work without awful side effects for you.

I'm very hopeful this will work for you and you start to see results quite soon.
It is a strict regime and I don't know if I would be able to restrict the intake of many of the things you have to give up (alcohol  Blush )
So I will follow your journey with great interest and have my fingers crossed for you
Good luck
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Wed-08-01-2020, 12:31 PM
Good luck with it Artemie, I hope it goes well for you, I tried paleo quite a while back, it was good but I couldn’t stay with it, I lacked the will power.
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Wed-08-01-2020, 12:34 PM
Congratulations on the weight loss Thumb always a nice side effect of this type of diet! Hopefully you'll start to see improvements in your Psoriasis symptoms as time goes by and your gut starts to heal. I started to see definite improvements after 2 weeks and continuing improvement over several months. But I guess everyone is different - I look forward to following your progress. As for slippery elm bark...yes tried the Pagano method (half heartedly I admit!) and didn't really notice much progress - it was going Paleo wot did it for me (although I didn't know that was what it was called at the time - it was just meat and green leafy vegetables as far as I was concerned.)
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Wed-08-01-2020, 16:19 PM
Look forward to hearing about your progress, hope it works for you.

Isn’t one of the theories around paleo, namely avoiding cereals etc that it’s the stuff they spray on the crops and the preservatives they put in the bread that hurts the gut? I can imagine that if you put something into bread which doesn’t allow bacteria and moulds to take hold, it’s going to do the same thing to the bacteria etc in your gut.

All the best anyway!
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Wed-08-01-2020, 18:32 PM
thanks guys (F/M)

TL I read it's the gluten and lectins that are inflammatory, at least in the elimination stage they should be avoided.

And hey guys; it took me 15 years of having the Pagano book on the shelf right here at home, two failed biologicals and lots salves, creams to actually start doing a diet Smile    So you can call that 15 years of clearing the old throat, getting ready for some discipline. And then 5 and a half month to stop doing wine and cider, tweaking the diet. That last bit might more tweaking, but for now I'll stay on this road.
I'ts not so hard as I thought, except for eating out in a restaurant, that's a hassle. When I eat at friends I bring my own unless they insist and if I'm on the road for a day I'll do some meal and snack prepping. 

More soon! Cod and fennel baking in the oven right now in a goose fat mixed with herbs. And there's bacon in this diet!
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Thu-09-01-2020, 07:49 AM
Great step Artemie. I admire you for taking it Smile

Did not know that alcohol would be such a problem for you to quit. Snigger I have virtually dumped alcohol also. No more wine only alcohol free beer. Feel a lot better now.

Very interested to read how you will be doing. Thumb
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Thu-09-01-2020, 12:13 PM
Good to hear you're feeling better, Caroline! I read alcohol widens the 'tight junctions' in your intestines, thus allowing food particles to seep into your bloodstream, whereupon they are attacked by your own immune system.

Raxyl how did it go for you doing better on the Paleo diet? Did you notice improvements quickly? Was it just improvement in P or also in energy or other things?
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Fri-10-01-2020, 09:27 AM
(Thu-09-01-2020, 12:13 PM)artemie Wrote: Good to hear you're feeling better, Caroline! I read alcohol widens the 'tight junctions' in your intestines, thus allowing food particles to seep into your bloodstream, whereupon they are attacked by your own immune system.

Raxyl how did it go for you doing better on the Paleo diet? Did you notice improvements quickly? Was it just improvement in P or also in energy or other things?
My P was in remission when I did it, so I cannot really say.  I see improvement in energy levels and weight loss within a few weeks. Unfortunately I couldn’t keep away from the carbs bread and potatoes in particular.
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Wed-15-01-2020, 08:21 AM
Hi Raxyl, thanks for replying, I was very curious what you experienced in improvements, hence the question.
and Great Clouds in the sky I hear you on the bread and potatoes.... or the crisps, sugar, rice, tomatoes, cookies, CHEESE, cheese and other milk based products, coffee, nuts, seeds... CHEESE. Etcetera. Am however, eating lots of healthy stuff and healthy fats. Gotto love the fats =]

That said, a quick update: 

I now have some very very very small inner clear skin on the patches of my elbows, and even Mr Artemie can tell altough it's only very slightly noticable. The only extra thing I'm doing besides diet and supplements is a generic calcipotriol salve, almost daily. That never helped before, altough it kept the scaling more at bay.
I'm practising some "healing affirmations"  in the morning since a few days while brushing my teeth; it has been scientifically proved that you can 'think yourself better'  with repeating positively phrased healing mantras. After all, it's hard to fight your own decisions. And it's science baby! 

So not only do I eat like a hippie, I'm practising it too. Ah well... 

Starting weight 22th of july 2019: 75.7 kilos
Current weight ( in the morning, after toiletvisit Smile     65.7 kilos  
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