I did say whatever works and I am not defending MTX, as I said all the US site figures drugs dot com are based on MS sufferers and not P.

(Sat-07-02-2015, 22:50 PM)jiml Wrote: I hadn't read that Fred .... If the same applies to all DMF Tablets then I'm doing it wrong washing them down with a pint of beer or cider    ( not the breakfast oneš though )

I don't know if it apply to Fumaderm Jim, hence me mentioning Tecfidera is an MS treatment. But I remember you saying you sometimes take Fumaderm with your meal and alcohol, I thought as they are both DMF I would mention it.

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@Dave Caroline can sometimes forget to take the blinkers off when others talk about DMF in another form that is not Psorinovo.  

Fred thinks that's bound to get him a bollocking    

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:03 PM)Fred Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 22:50 PM)jiml Wrote: I hadn't read that Fred .... If the same applies to all DMF Tablets then I'm doing it wrong washing them down with a pint of beer or cider    ( not the breakfast oneš though )

I don't know if it apply to Fumaderm Jim, hence me mentioning Tecfidera is an MS treatment. But I remember you saying you sometimes take Fumaderm with your meal and alcohol, I thought as they are both DMF I would mention it.

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@Dave Caroline can sometimes forget to take the blinkers off when others talk about DMF in another form that is not Psorinovo.  

Fred thinks that's bound to get him a bollocking    

Caroline has upset me now Fred so I am off to bed

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:11 PM)D Foster Wrote: Caroline has upset me now Fred so I am off to bed  

I don't blame you mate, she upsets me every day.

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:03 PM)Fred Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 22:50 PM)jiml Wrote: I hadn't read that Fred .... If the same applies to all DMF Tablets then I'm doing it wrong washing them down with a pint of beer or cider    ( not the breakfast oneš though )

I don't know if it apply to Fumaderm Jim, hence me mentioning Tecfidera is an MS treatment. But I remember you saying you sometimes take Fumaderm with your meal and alcohol, I thought as they are both DMF I would mention it

not sometimes I drink most times.......... Tecfidera is slow release so I can't understand what difference having a drink when taking it or within an hour will make the slightest difference
Fumaderm is enteric coated and releases faster ..... I shall not change my habits as enjoy a drink with my dinner

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:20 PM)jiml Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:03 PM)Fred Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 22:50 PM)jiml Wrote: I hadn't read that Fred .... If the same applies to all DMF Tablets then I'm doing it wrong washing them down with a pint of beer or cider    ( not the breakfast oneš though )

I don't know if it apply to Fumaderm Jim, hence me mentioning Tecfidera is an MS treatment. But I remember you saying you sometimes take Fumaderm with your meal and alcohol, I thought as they are both DMF I would mention it

not sometimes I drink  most times.......... Tecfidera is slow release so I can't understand what difference having a drink when taking it or within an hour will make the slightest difference
Fumaderm is enteric coated and releases faster ..... I shall not change my habits as enjoy a drink with my dinner

I'll drink to that

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:20 PM)jiml Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:03 PM)Fred Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 22:50 PM)jiml Wrote: I hadn't read that Fred .... If the same applies to all DMF Tablets then I'm doing it wrong washing them down with a pint of beer or cider    ( not the breakfast oneš though )

I don't know if it apply to Fumaderm Jim, hence me mentioning Tecfidera is an MS treatment. But I remember you saying you sometimes take Fumaderm with your meal and alcohol, I thought as they are both DMF I would mention it

not sometimes I drink  most times.......... Tecfidera is slow release so I can't understand what difference having a drink when taking it or within an hour will make the slightest difference
Fumaderm is enteric coated and releases faster ..... I shall not change my habits as enjoy a drink with my dinner

For Psorinovo there is no indication, it even is said that you can have some beer afterwards in order to get it faster in the intestines.
I never by myself have found any relation between the consumption of alcohol or not. Now I am not really a drinker. 2 glasses of wine are normally the max, if I have accidentally 3 then I get really too close to public drunkenship.

Sorry to have  upset you Dave   and Fred  

So about Biogens Tecfidera, to me that seems utter nonsense. Again a signal that they did no real deep going research. Then it is easy to say that you cannot use alcohol, always a hit.
The build up scheme sounds to me as really uncomfortable and far from a careful build up.

(Sun-08-02-2015, 09:28 AM)Caroline Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:20 PM)jiml Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:03 PM)Fred Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 22:50 PM)jiml Wrote: I hadn't read that Fred .... If the same applies to all DMF Tablets then I'm doing it wrong washing them down with a pint of beer or cider    ( not the breakfast oneš though )

I don't know if it apply to Fumaderm Jim, hence me mentioning Tecfidera is an MS treatment. But I remember you saying you sometimes take Fumaderm with your meal and alcohol, I thought as they are both DMF I would mention it

not sometimes I drink  most times.......... Tecfidera is slow release so I can't understand what difference having a drink when taking it or within an hour will make the slightest difference
Fumaderm is enteric coated and releases faster ..... I shall not change my habits as enjoy a drink with my dinner

For Psorinovo there is no indication, it even is said that you can have some beer afterwards in order to get it faster in the intestines.
I never by myself have found any relation between the consumption of alcohol or not. Now I am not really a drinker. 2 glasses of wine are normally the max, if I have accidentally 3 then I get really too close to public drunkenship.

Sorry to have  upset you Dave   and Fred  

So about Biogens Tecfidera, to me that seems utter nonsense. Again a signal that they did no real deep going research. Then it is easy to say that you cannot use alcohol, always a hit.
The build up scheme sounds to me as really uncomfortable and far from a careful build up.

Totally agree Caroline I wish I could upset those two

(Sun-08-02-2015, 10:02 AM)jiml Wrote:

(Sun-08-02-2015, 09:28 AM)Caroline Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:20 PM)jiml Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 23:03 PM)Fred Wrote:

(Sat-07-02-2015, 22:50 PM)jiml Wrote: I hadn't read that Fred .... If the same applies to all DMF Tablets then I'm doing it wrong washing them down with a pint of beer or cider    ( not the breakfast oneš though )

I don't know if it apply to Fumaderm Jim, hence me mentioning Tecfidera is an MS treatment. But I remember you saying you sometimes take Fumaderm with your meal and alcohol, I thought as they are both DMF I would mention it

not sometimes I drink  most times.......... Tecfidera is slow release so I can't understand what difference having a drink when taking it or within an hour will make the slightest difference
Fumaderm is enteric coated and releases faster ..... I shall not change my habits as enjoy a drink with my dinner

For Psorinovo there is no indication, it even is said that you can have some beer afterwards in order to get it faster in the intestines.
I never by myself have found any relation between the consumption of alcohol or not. Now I am not really a drinker. 2 glasses of wine are normally the max, if I have accidentally 3 then I get really too close to public drunkenship.

Sorry to have  upset you Dave   and Fred  

So about Biogens Tecfidera, to me that seems utter nonsense. Again a signal that they did no real deep going research. Then it is easy to say that you cannot use alcohol, always a hit.
The build up scheme sounds to me as really uncomfortable and far from a careful build up.

Totally agree Caroline   I wish I could upset those two  

That's good , you encourage Caroline Jim ,I don't know some people what can you do with them.

Alcohol consumption can have a significant impact on your digestive track.  It's not advisable to wash down any medication with a pint o' Guinness that requires the stomach to digest.  It's irrelevant if there is any real reaction between the drug and alcohol,  it's simply NOT worth the potential lawsuit.

On the other hand, biologics are injected to avoid breakdown by the stomach,  so there is the potential to tip a few cold ones, but I'd wouldn't recommend it. Many people who take biologics complain about dehydration. I don't think alcohol is the best choice here. I'd also not recommended anything with caffeine in it on the day of injection to. This is just my opinion, and I think the best choice for taking meds is H2O, unless doctor advises otherwise.

On a side note, a do miss drinking beer over there. The beer taste sooo much better over in Ireland. I'd think I'd become an alcoholic if i lived there.