(Wed-23-01-2019, 22:17 PM)Bill Wrote: They take blood from people on Tecfidera in other countries. I can understand the caution.

Interesting. I wonder if they were to take blood from someone being treated and gave it to a psoriasis patient it could help them.

What do you mean? Why should a blood transfusion help with psoriasis?

(Wed-23-01-2019, 22:35 PM)Bill Wrote: What do you mean? Why should a blood transfusion help with psoriasis?

It's ok Bill I'm having a Fred moment.

This thread got me thinking that if a person with psoriasis was unlucky enough to need a blood transfusion, would the blood from someone such as yourself or me on a bio actually help them with psoriasis.

A bit like the person I knew that ended up getting AIDS from blood transfusion. Could we pass on our treatments via blood and actually help someone with psoriasis.

Ignore me I need a drink.

A person who has plaque psoriasis can donate as long as they have no signs of infection, open bleeding wounds etc, there are certain treatments that will cause a deferral, Acitretin for example with cause you to be deferred for 5 years, MTX will cause a deferral and also Bio's  My wife is a Nurse educator / Phlebotomist with The Australian Red Cross Blood Service so if you have any questions about P and donating I can ask her for you.

People who lived in the UK for six months or more from 1980–1996 are permanently deferred due to the risk from Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (mad cow disease)

Does that mean most of the UK population over 40 can't give blood in Australia

I often thought about giving but wouldn't ask for fear of rejection and now being on fumaderm I  wouldn't consider it myself

(Wed-23-01-2019, 21:59 PM)Fred Wrote:

(Wed-23-01-2019, 21:57 PM)Turnedlight Wrote: I did it a few times when I was young but I fainted every time and in the end they politely said maybe don’t bother again!    however after having children and psoriasis and a couple of ops I’m no longer worried about needles, but I’m pretty sure they don’t want my blood now because of being on P meds.

Yes that is my thinking the treatments we take could stop us giving blood. Mrs Fred also asked if we did give blood could we pass on psoriasis.  

I don’t think psoriasis is a communicable disease..

(Wed-23-01-2019, 23:53 PM)jiml Wrote: Does that mean most of the UK population over 40 can't give blood in Australia

I often thought about giving but wouldn't ask for fear of rejection and now being on fumaderm I  wouldn't consider it myself

Not just the UK population, anyone who spent 6 months or more in the UK between those years is permanently deferred, there are several staff at my workplace who cannot give blood for this reason.

(Wed-23-01-2019, 23:55 PM)Turnedlight Wrote:

(Wed-23-01-2019, 21:59 PM)Fred Wrote:

(Wed-23-01-2019, 21:57 PM)Turnedlight Wrote: I did it a few times when I was young but I fainted every time and in the end they politely said maybe don’t bother again!    however after having children and psoriasis and a couple of ops I’m no longer worried about needles, but I’m pretty sure they don’t want my blood now because of being on P meds.

Yes that is my thinking the treatments we take could stop us giving blood. Mrs Fred also asked if we did give blood could we pass on psoriasis.  

I don’t think psoriasis is a communicable disease..

You are correct Turnedlight, there is no evidence that P is communicable and it does in its self does not stop someone donating there are three main things the blood service look at when deciding if blood is to be used;

1. Will it harm the donor
   
2. Will it harm the recipient
   
3. will it harm the product
   

The blood service also take blood for therapeutic reasons, i.e. a patient with haemochromatosis or polycythaemia may have blood taken to reduce the level of iron or red blood cells in their body. The blood taken is then discarded.

I dont know exactly how it is in the Netherlands. Should have to do a search on internet for that or ask some contact, but I am not sure if I am better than ArteMie in that...  

Can you transfer P to somebody else? I would not know. P is not visible in the blood, but the blood contains triggers that do work on a P sufferer, but why would that work on someone without P? Theoretically yes, but only if that person is already vulnerable. Otherwise his immune system will deal with it.

Can you send a cure for P to someone else through transfusion ? Good question Fred.
Maybe, but only if the transfused blood contains something that fights the P. This might be so if the real cause of P is detectable in your blood.
If it has a DNA relation and perhaps a bacterial cause/trigger. Is there something in the donated blood that kills that bacteria, you may be lucky.


And what if you have e.g. been bitten by a tick? Is it possible to transfer the borellia bacteria to someone else? I think so.
According to the theories and reseach on CWDB’s, there is another publication coming from mr. Claessen from the Universiy of Leiden, I can imagine that CWDB’s also pass with a transfusion. If that is a real problem? Imagine you get blood from a former Q-fever patient, who now again are allowed to give blood, your will also get his/hers CWDB’s with this blood. Will your get sick of that? I don’t know, there is no reseach or proof in that direction. Nobody picked up the idea yet to connect the dots on that point.

Wow I didn't expect many answers. But it proves what I said to Artemie "we provide the best information"

Handy having Mrs Craigs input too, please say thank you.

@Jim France has a similar rule as Australia if you lived in the UK or Ireland between 1980–1996 you can not donate.

(Thu-24-01-2019, 12:48 PM)Fred Wrote: Wow I didn't expect many answers. But it proves what I said to Artemie "we provide the best information"

Handy having Mrs Craigs input too, please say thank you.

@Jim France has a similar rule as Australia if you lived in the UK or Ireland between 1980–1996 you can not donate.

I used to give blood many years ago but as soon as I started taking oral treatments for P they told me to bog off.