Zudaifu cream - does it contain steroids?

[cbleahen]

Have been reading on a variety of groups about Zudaifu cream, and whether or not this contains steroids.  When I asked my Dermatologist he said all non-regulated creams contain steroids - it's the only way they work.  I've only met my Dermatologist three times and trying to be nice, he doesn't really have a personality and one of the old-school consultants who quite possibly has a god-complex!  So I'm looking for some user experience. 

I'm flummoxed - listed below the ingredients for Zudaifu cream, I can't figure out which is the steroid - can someone enlighten me? 

Ingredients: Sophorae Flavesgentis radix (anti-inflammatory Chinese medicinal herb), Stermonae radix (antibacterial and antifungal Chinese medicinal herb), Cnidii Fructus (Chinese medicinal herb that kills parasites), Kochiae Fructus (Chinese medicinal herb used to clear heat and remove dampness), Menthae Haplocalycis herb (Chinese medicinal herb for rashes), Extracts, Chlorhexidine acetate (skin cleanser for wounds), Stearic Acid, Distilled Monostearate, Glycerol Vineargear, Petrolatum, Purified Water.

Thanks!
Catherine

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Edit by Fred: Before thinking of trying this you should read this thread: Zudaifu cream stop using it immediately

[Fred]

If you are looking for a new post here it has been removed.

*Please remember Psoriasis Club has a No Link policy.

Fred.

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@cbleahen It's probably because there have been a lot of scams where they say the cream is natural, but they include illegal steroids.

I wouldn't bother if I was you, but it's your choice.

[cbleahen]

Hi Fred
thanks for the update.  Doesn't really answer my question however, as to which ingredient listed is the steroid?  Anecdotally a lot of the prescribed steroid creams don't seem to do much anyway and without knowing which ingredient is the steroid I'm flummoxed trying to research it further. 

Appreciate if you have no interest in it - assume you've read thousands of posts like this before :
Catherine

[Fred]

Hi Fred
thanks for the update.  Doesn't really answer my question however, as to which ingredient listed is the steroid?  Anecdotally a lot of the prescribed steroid creams don't seem to do much anyway and without knowing which ingredient is the steroid I'm flummoxed trying to research it further. 

Appreciate if you have no interest in it - assume you've read thousands of posts like this before :
Catherine

Sorry Catherine, maybe I should have just opted out of posting in this thread, but I'll give it a go as I'm here.

#1 Yes I have seen posts like this many times on Psoriasis Club and those that make them usually get thrown out the door. No I'm not going to throw you out, but 99.9% .................. well no I will go as far as to say all of these types of things are never going to do anything for psoriasis and there are a lot of people pushing these scams. So no they do not interest me.

#2 As for what ingredient you listed is the steroid, I'm no expert but my guess would be none of them. And that is the whole point, they are not going to list the steroid as it's illegal.

I will always jump on these types of threads as I have seen so many people fall for the scams over the years, it annoys me that people are using the vulnerable in this way. What you need to do is have a good look around your favourite search engine and dig a bit deeper than the first page of results as they are probably paid for results in the first results and see what you can find,  I'm not going to put links up here to results as it is against Psoriasis Club rules. But do your homework and you will find a lot of these so called treatments originate from the far east and contain illegal steroids that are not listed on the ingredients, and they are certainly not recommended by anyone other than the scammers.

Look at it like this:

1 cup of cheap coconut oil
1 spoon of goat milk
1 drop of mint essence
1 good dollop of Dovobet.

Sell it as Organic Virgin Coconut Oil and Goat Milk Mint Psoriasis Cream with lots of great reviews and people will try it.

No mention of the illegal dovobet but I'm making bug bucks from you so I don't care.

You have heard of fake news, these are fake creams, and to be honest they could damage people and it makes me angry.

I'll get off my soap box as I have removed the links that were posted, but in closing I will say "See a dermatologist as these types of creams will probably do more harm than good, and they will soon empty your pocket of cash"

[Bill]

Thank you Fred. I didn't know about the illegal use of steroids in herbal creams. Not that I would ever consider buying any.

[Fred]

Thank you Fred. I didn't know about the illegal use of steroids in herbal creams. Not that I would ever consider buying any.

The problem is Bill that these these creams are not regulated and there is no way they are going to tell you the illegal ingredients added. Yes they may work at first, but it's the illegal steroid that is working and not the natural ingredients.

A bit of homework on the internet can throw up plenty of reading. It's nothing new and there is an interesting bit in the BMJ from 1999:

"Analysis of Chinese herbal creams prescribed for dermatological conditions"

[Maryam]

The ingredient list is probably not very reliable. Fred (and your derm) is right, unless you can have it analysed in a lab, it is almost 90% certain that is contains illegal (so not listed!) steroids. And very strong ones at that since a lot of people see effects within a couple of days.

[cbleahen]

Thanks all for the feedback - am new to this having only had an outbreak/diagnosis in May.  Is it worth compiling a thread with name of known scam lotions and potions?

[Maryam]

I think that, as ageneral rule you can say that when they call it a “chinese herbal cream” you can assume that it contains steroids.

[Fred]

I think that, as ageneral rule you can say that when they call it a “chinese herbal cream” you can assume that it contains steroids.

Yep.  

Re: "Is it worth compiling a thread with name of known scam lotions and potions?"

No it would be a bad idea, for the following reasons.

#1 Any advertising is good advertising, even bad can help the offending product/website get found.

#2 Google will start to punish us for spamming our own content, we have built up a good reputation for good reliable content and although it may seem a positive thing to list the scams it would be looked on as a swing away from what we are known for.

#3 Psoriasis Club is not a place to use for slagging off other products/websites. All members are welcome to comment on something if a question is asked such as in this thread, but we don't want to be known for slagging off other places even if they are scammers.

#4 There are far to many to list and a lot of them just change their names. There are probably more scams out there than real treatments.

#5 If we start slagging off another product/website we are asking for retaliation. This could be by an influx of spam or even a possible DDOS attack, we can fight back but we ask them to leave us alone and most do so it would be unfair to start a war.

There is one site that does list some and I think he has had a lot of hassle, it's not been updated for a while and as I'm not allowed by my own rules to post links you will have to search for it yourself or let me know and I will PM a link.

I think it's best that we carry on the way we are and let our members offer their personal opinions on a question. We are better off giving good quality information and support rather that shaming others.