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This is getting silly now....
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#1
Mon-03-10-2011, 10:42 AM
Hi, hoping some people on here might be able to offer some words of advice or support.

Yes, I want to rip my skin off. Or burn it. All of it. I've had this plague for nearly 4 years now, I'm a woman in my mid 30's. it's everywhere and it just keeps getting worse. I've had both forms of light therapy - TLO1 and PUVA which were unresponsive, use dovobet all the time, and xamiol all the time. As best patches fade but never all of it. I was offered the next set of tablet treatment but I won't take it as it can cause cancer (which runs in the family any way) and infertility. I'm so at the end of my tether now with it, it has sytematically ruined my life in 4 short years and now I can feel a real depression coming over me having been made redundant earlier this year and recently separated from my husband. I'm getting to a very real mental state of thinking 'What is the point of it all, I can't live a normal life with this thing, it's never going to go away. I won't ever be able to have a normal relationship where I'm comfortable'.

I don't enjoy anything. I'm miserable all the time because of this. Every single day I wake up thinking what's the point even about very basic normal stuff, you know, 'What shall I wear today?' Who cares? There's no point. Wear the same as every other day. All I can wear is long trousers and long sleeved tops or jumpers (that have to be white due to scalp plague). Anything in contact with my skin is painful or itches like mad unless I moisturise top to toe every 2 hours. This plague is in every fold of skin so no matter how many times I wash or moisturise the skin splits, turns to a delightful paste and smells of rotting flesh (I am a very clean person but it does this anyway). I am a picture of femininity. Not.

I have to force myself to leave the house which causes so much anxiety I often talk myself out of it.

People I see don't 'get' what it's like and I often get a cursory and polite 'your skin's looking better' I usually nod and reply with a 'mmmmmm', but inside my head is screaming at them 'no, obviously it's not better. It's just as bad as last time I saw you so shut the fu*k up'. Or worse, for example if I hear people talking about how they have nothing to wear, in my head I want to scream at them 'try living a life knowing you will NEVER. EVER., be able to wear a skirt, or cropped trousers, or a vest, or a t-shirt EVER again or ever go to a special event or get dressed up and then see how limited your wardrobe looks. Just be grateful you self-centred and insensitive git'. (ok, that's probably more one for the girls).

I can't go on a night out with friends or family as it just throws up the question, what can I wear. Jeans and a cardigan like every other single day
of my life. I hate the school run, the other Mums just stare.

Think that's one of the worst things about this plague, people think it's something worse or something contagious and they stare. They never ask. Maybe it would be better if they did. On public transport it's a nightmare, I daren't hold onto a hand rail on an over crowded bus, people physically lean away from me as if they're going to catch it. And, after a hot day in an office, with every skin fold pasty and l'eau'd'rot in full effect, it's no joy getting on an even hotter bus packed to the rafters where you're inches away from people on all sides. I waited over an hour once for a bus that wasn't full (busses arrive every 8 minutes or so).

I know this is a genetic thing passed down through the family but I can't forgive the person who gave it to me. If they knew this ran in the family they shouldn't of had children. If I had known about it and that it was hereditory and that I would get it, I would not have had my daughter (really). I didn't get this plague until after she was born. If I have passed this on to her I'll never forgive myself either.

People say, 'you've just got to not let it affect you'. How? Please tell me. How do I do that when it is a constantly in my face taunting, 'look at the life you could of had!'
Another thing I get a lot is 'you've just got to get out in the world and take each day at a time' Again, HOW????? And my personal favourite 'there are people in the world with worse things that this'. True. Very true, but that doesn't mean my experience of this is any less real or valid.

If there's a knack to just accepting it? Please tell me. I'm just not one of those people who can just put two fingers up to the world and say 'this is me, if you don't like it, that's your problem'. I would love to know how people on here have come to terms with it. How do people live normal lives with this disease when it affects so many things on a day to day basis.

Here's a list of things I can't do now, some of which are day to day things and others are 'that would be a nice thing to do once in a while but I can't because of the plague' kind of things....
1. I can't take my daughter swimming. (breaks my heard because she always asks me if I'll be able to take her when my skin is better to which I have to say 'yes' because she's desperate for me to go with her even though I know it'll never be better enough to do it.
2. I will NEVER be able to wear a t-shirt or a vest out in public again.
3. I will NEVER be able to wear a skirt/dress/cropped trousers in public again.
4. I can no longer wear my hair in a ponytail due to it being so bad on my scalp.

These things alone are enough to fu*k your life up, imagine never being able to wear a t-shirt again in hot weather. I literally have anxiety leaving the house now and have to make sure I'm covering it all up with my boots, jeans, long sleeved t-shirt or jumper or cardignan which is most delightful in 30 degree heat.

5. It fu*king hurts. No matter how clean or how moisturised I keep it it hurts. Every. Single. Day. Sitting for more that 5 minutes, standing, walking, sleeping.
6. I can't sit in the garden. It's over looked. I used to be a really outdoorsy person, not anymore.
7. Can't go on holiday. Anywhere that might need skin exposure due to heat ot activity. Unless perhaps a secluded holiday if such a thing exists. I know I wouldn't enjoy it. The mere thought fills me with dread. Might as well stay at home and be secluded here. (cheaper). Unfortunately that means my daugher won't ever have a holiday which hardly seems fair. More guilt.
8. Can't play team sports - can't wear shorts or t-shirt.
9. Can't go to the gym - same as above.
10. Can't think, hey it's my birthday, lets get the girls together and go for a spa day or out for a meal.
11. Can't join in on friends hen do's or birthday days out as they usually involve the above.
12. Can't have a love life.
13. Can't get a hair cut. - Probably manage 2 a year after weeks of mental preparation and hours of crying beforehand. Same with the dentist or optician or seeing the Doctor, anything that involves someone being close to my head.
14. Answering the front door. It has to be a very VERY good day for me to answer the front door. Usually just sit very still and hope they go away.

These things might sound like materialistic things but they're really not, they're normal everyday things which you take for granted until you can't do them anymore.

Maybe I should just suck it up and get on with it like people tell me to but I just can't seem to get past this.

Before this, I was a happy, out-going, confident person and fun to be around. Really.

Would burning the skin help? Would it come back? I'll consider anything. Honestly.

Sorry for being depressing. Someone help me, please. Any advice will be gratefully received.
JustJess
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#2
Mon-03-10-2011, 11:10 AM
Hello Jess just a quick post to let you know I'm reading your post and will get back to you. didn't want you to think no one cares. Smile
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Treatment: Dovobet, Xamiol, and buckets of Double Base!
#3
Mon-03-10-2011, 11:15 AM
Thanks Fred, I've just been reading 'The Hidden Enemy' post and already feel a bit clamer knowing I'm not alone Smile Look forward to hearing from you x
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#4
Mon-03-10-2011, 11:49 AM
First things first I take it you are seeing a dermatologist ? if not you should be.

I and others do know what your going through. I suffered with bad depression many years ago because of psoriasis and it is a common thing for people to suffer with it. however I did manage to cure myself of it without any medical help in the end. but that's another story.

Before I try to answer your questions I always tell people you must get it in your head that there is No Cure! yes you will look for one and yes you will try all sorts of things but the sooner you accept you have psoriasis for probably the rest of your life the better. Not what you wanted to hear I know but it's not the end of the world there is lots of help out there that can help you cope with it and possibly get it in remission.

I hope I can offer some help to you questions.

1: I can't take my daughter swimming: yes you can! just explain to her that you don't want others to see your psoriasis, but you will go with her and watch.

2: I will NEVER be able to wear a t-shirt or a vest out in public again: you definitely will! It just takes time start by rolling up long sleeves, you can always pull them back down in a hurry.

3: I will NEVER be able to wear a skirt/dress/cropped trousers in public again: Can't help with that one as I don't wear skirts/dresses/ or cropped trousers. (that comment was supposed to make you smile).

4: I can no longer wear my hair in a ponytail due to it being so bad on my scalp: It will take time but you will find something that will help clear your scalp. also have a ponytail and as I said about T Shirts, just let your hair down quickly if you need too.

5: It fu*king hurts: Yep it does I cant change that but you must keep moisturising and wait till you find the right treatment for you.

6: I can't sit in the garden: Wait till your neighbours have gone out and just have something handy to cover up with. or find a quiet patch up the park.

7: Can't go on holiday: Go abroad where there is lots of sun and uncover. no one knows you and they have better things to do than look at you.

8: Can't play team sports: Cant help! I don't do sport. (go on laugh you know you want to).

9: Can't go to the gym: like you said (As Above)

10: Can't think, hey it's my birthday, lets get the girls together and go for a spa day or out for a meal: talk to your girl friends and explain how it affects you. if they are genuine they will help you.

11: Can't join in on friends hen do's or birthday days out as they usually involve the above: As Above.

12: Can't have a love life: You can once you find someone who doesn't care what you like like and just wants to be with you.

13: Can't get a hair cut: Phone around different hairdresser and ask them if they have someone who knows what psoriasis is. some are trained to deal with scalp problems.

14: Answering the front door: Just do it, it could be fun telling a salesman to F off and take it out on them. they are used to it.

I honestly don't have all the answers but the most important things are Talk about it, Accept it, Keep positive, Moisturise, expose your skin. and start to claim your life back. You only get one and you should enjoy it.

Hope I have helped a bit. if not fire away I will come up with something to make you think life is worth living.

Sorry I took so long but I'm eating cake!

Fred. Rolleyes






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Mon-03-10-2011, 12:22 PM
Had another look at your post.
Quote:I know this is a genetic thing passed down through the family but I can't forgive the person who gave it to me. If they knew this ran in the family they shouldn't of had children. If I had known about it and that it was hereditory and that I would get it, I would not have had my daughter (really). I didn't get this plague until after she was born. If I have passed this on to her I'll never forgive myself either.
Some say it's in your genes but your parents may not have had psoriasis my parents didn't. Also it doesn't' mean your daughter will get it.

Quote:People say, 'you've just got to not let it affect you'. How? Please tell me. How do I do that when it is a constantly in my face taunting, 'look at the life you could of had!'
Another thing I get a lot is 'you've just got to get out in the world and take each day at a time' Again, HOW????? And my personal favourite 'there are people in the world with worse things that this'. True. Very true, but that doesn't mean my experience of this is any less real or valid.
These are statements made to try and help you keep a positive attitude, at least they are trying to help you.

Quote:If there's a knack to just accepting it? Please tell me. I'm just not one of those people who can just put two fingers up to the world and say 'this is me, if you don't like it, that's your problem'. I would love to know how people on here have come to terms with it. How do people live normal lives with this disease when it affects so many things on a day to day basis.
A difficult one to answer. I must admit to being one of those people who can say "Up Yours I don't care what you think of me" I never used to be able to do that, but I found by letting friends and family see small bits of my psoriasis and talking about it, I soon found out by educating them and sharing it made my life easier.

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Psoriasis Score: 36
Treatment: Dovobet, Xamiol, and buckets of Double Base!
#6
Mon-03-10-2011, 17:25 PM
Thanks Fred. It's good to read a positive side to how I'm feeling. Thanks for sharing your experiences, it's really good to know that you can come out the other side of feeling like this!...there is hope! I'm reading the other threads on the forums and it's lovely not to feel so alone with this. So a big thank you again xx
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#7
Mon-03-10-2011, 17:47 PM
(Mon-03-10-2011, 17:25 PM)JustJess Wrote: Thanks Fred. It's good to read a positive side to how I'm feeling. Thanks for sharing your experiences, it's really good to know that you can come out the other side of feeling like this!...there is hope! I'm reading the other threads on the forums and it's lovely not to feel so alone with this. So a big thank you again xx
Your welcome Jess that's what we are here for. To help each other.

It is difficult to cope with psoriasis and sometimes you will feel life's just not worth it. but trust me it is and you will learn to cope with it over time. you will also find something that works for you.

Try keeping a note of how things are going. I use the "Psoriasis Score" that I made you can find it here: Psoriasis Score keep a note of your score you can also add it in your profile if you wish.

Another thing that could help is using the "Members Journals" to put down how you are feeling. you have your own thread and no one will interfere with it, you do need to have made 5 posts to start a new thread. you can find it here: [Group Specific]

Most of all try to always find something positive in the day. keep talking to others on the forum. never be alone with psoriasis there are others Bigarm
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Tue-04-10-2011, 08:18 AM
Hi Jess, really glad you've found us! Your post rings so many bells it's frightening...I remember perfectly thinking so many of those things going through your head. I know all the things people say trying to help sound patronising or just plain ignorant but you need to try and keep in mind this is just a bad (yes ok bl**dy awful) patch and things will get better, there will be a time when you'll be able to look back and be amazed how much life has improved.
I think the first bit of light at the end of the tunnel for me was finding a forum where I could talk and people understood how I felt, so please keep on posting, talk to us and we'll do everything we can to help (even if it's just all sitting here with a glass of wine taking the p*ss out of Fred it can help, laughter is a good medicine and he's used to it)
Feel free to message me too whenever you like.
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Tue-04-10-2011, 10:06 AM
(Tue-04-10-2011, 08:18 AM)Lostintranslation Wrote: Hi Jess, really glad you've found us! Your post rings so many bells it's frightening...I remember perfectly thinking so many of those things going through your head. I know all the things people say trying to help sound patronising or just plain ignorant but you need to try and keep in mind this is just a bad (yes ok bl**dy awful) patch and things will get better, there will be a time when you'll be able to look back and be amazed how much life has improved.
I think the first bit of light at the end of the tunnel for me was finding a forum where I could talk and people understood how I felt, so please keep on posting, talk to us and we'll do everything we can to help (even if it's just all sitting here with a glass of wine taking the p*ss out of Fred it can help, laughter is a good medicine and he's used to it)
Feel free to message me too whenever you like.

Thanks so much, I really appreciate it Smile Jess x
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Tue-04-10-2011, 11:30 AM
(Tue-04-10-2011, 08:18 AM)Lostintranslation Wrote: (even if it's just all sitting here with a glass of wine taking the p*ss out of Fred it can help, laughter is a good medicine and he's used to it)
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