Germany says Otezla gives no benefit to psoriasis patients

[Fred]

Yes I understand that it has only been trailed against Placebo, so the Germans wont accept that although there is evidence in the trials of a better outcome on the drug than the placebo.
Are Celgene planning any trials against bio drugs like stelara or in your opinion are they fearful they may not come out on top ( do you think they may have already done trials and as the results were not as good as they hoped for have not published them ?)

The French are much the same, I suppose they are right really. If it's no better than other treatments then why use it?

I don't know Jim, you never know with these big pharma's. My personal opinion is I don't think it will be around long, I'm only saying this as we don't (as far as a I know) have any members using it so as patients we have little to go on. But for me there is nothing better than getting it from the horses mouth so to speak, if everyone on Psoriasis Club said a particular drug was no good I would probably believe them over the pharma results.

Usually in these cases they either come up with what is asked, or they just stop offering it to that country. I doubt it will do them much harm loosing one country, but if others followed it could spell the end.

But by Germany saying this, it does make you think are we getting fed misleading information. We have lot's of successful reports posted on here in news from celgene, but we've yet to see anything else from people actually using it, or a study putting up against a competitor.

I don't know Jim, I could be reading it wrong but it doesn't look good by the way I have understood it. Having said that if nothing else was available to me I would give it a try if offered, as it has gone through rigorous testing to get this far so why not give it a go.