Stelara round two

[D Foster]

Now Fred, this time a big disagree with Dave.
MTX is dangerous but your know that already.

Be careful, have yourself regularly checked!!!  We cannot miss you  

P.s. Wished you would be able to e.g. follow the path of Bill, or go a bit outside the system without telling the system.

Oh it's still Poison as far as I'm concerned, and I would advise everyone to leave it well alone.  

They are taking bloods once a week, and I will soon stop if I feel anything is not right.

I'm already thinking of a different approach, but I'm going to give this a try first in the hope I can get mobile again as it's getting me down.

As long as everything is checked and monitored then ,bearing in mind all the alternatives, then MTX is a known quantity and is relatively safe . Like anything else it's a question of checks and balances and for PsA is can be very effective ,yes it is a very toxic substance but the question is ,where do you go from here that is as effective and is not just as or worse with side effects.

I still don't agree with you Dave.    There are still better ways to go.

I took MTX for 9 years ,6 by mouth and 3 by self injection and even though I am on 90mg of Stelara the relief for my PsA was much better on MTX.The side effects were not good towards the end of the tablets then on injection that settled down but built up again so I came off it however for the P it never cleared it but as I said for the PsA yes it was good. I can think of many other treatments that are worse and if you are very careful and monitor it then it is OK , PsA is extremely painful and I am lucky because I am not as bad as Fred.I take Tramadol and would argue that this is as bad as MTX in many ways especially as it only masks the pain leaving the joints alone which MTX does effect. A catch 22 situation prevails so where do you go ,it's just a matter of trying to play it safe as you can to get some relief.