rash while doing clean gut - read me please!

[kh924]

i've gpt moderate psoriasis on body, severe on scalp.i have been drinking way too much past several months and believe this is the trigger. started the clean gut cleanse, giving up all caffeine, sugar processed foods - following it strictly. a week into this find that I have a bad rash on my stomach and back. could this be due to the supplements dr. junger recommends? I'm taking all of them. or perhaps it is the hemp powder in the shakes? help. i don't know what to do. i don't want to go back on topical steroids.

will this rash go away? any suggestions on what to eliminate, if anything and still stay on clean gut?

[Fred]

i've gpt moderate psoriasis on body, severe on scalp.i have been drinking way too much past several months and believe this is the trigger. started the clean gut cleanse, giving up all caffeine, sugar processed foods - following it strictly. a week into this find that I have a bad rash on my stomach and back. could this be due to the supplements dr. junger recommends? I'm taking all of them. or perhaps it is the hemp powder in the shakes? help. i don't know what to do. i don't want to go back on topical steroids.

will this rash go away? any suggestions on what to eliminate, if anything and still stay on clean gut?

Sorry I read it as you requested, but I can't help as I'm not a fan of this type of approach for psoriasis.

Maybe you should ask the supplier, or someone else may have a better answer later.

Regards.

Fred.

[jiml]

Hi and to the forum. I can't help I'm afraid as I have never been able to stick to diets or the use of supplements
There is a lot of information on here that you can trawl through in natural treatments if you are against prescribed treatments.
I'm sure you will get some answers
We are a small but supportive group who share our experiences of psoriasis ( what has worked and what hasn't )
I wish you luck in your quest for clearance
Jim

[kh924]

after extensive research i believe leaky gut is the cause

[jiml]

after extensive research i believe leaky gut is the cause

You may well be right I'm not an expert, but my opinion is it's an autoimmune disease and should be treated as such.
It's a matter of each to their own beliefs but my psoriasis is under control for the last two years.
We can't always agree but I try to keep an open mind and would love you to be right and me wrong.
Good luck

Jim

[Fred]

after extensive research i believe leaky gut is the cause

I have heard of it being a cause, I think Pagano  was one of the first to suggest it in his book though I could be wrong. Hanna started a thread a while back about it problem with pagano

As for research into psoriasis being caused by Leaky Gut Syndrome, I don't remember seeing much in the way of medical research. Though it does seem to be supported by nutritionists and practitioners of alternative medicine, but they don't tend to do regulated medical studies.

This NHS article may help.

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'Leaky gut syndrome' is a proposed condition some health practitioners claim is the cause of a wide range of long-term conditions, including chronic fatigue syndrome and multiple sclerosis (MS).

Proponents of 'leaky gut syndrome' claim that many symptoms and diseases are caused by the immune system reacting to germs, toxins or other large molecules that have been absorbed into the bloodstream via a porous ("leaky") bowel.

There is little evidence to support this theory, and no evidence that so-called "treatments" for "leaky gut syndrome", such as nutritional supplements and a gluten-free diet, have any beneficial effect for most of the conditions they are claimed to help.

While it is true that certain factors can make the bowel more permeable, this probably does not lead to anything more than temporary mild inflammation of an area of the bowel.

Exponents of "leaky gut syndrome" – largely nutritionists and practitioners of complementary and alternative medicine – believe the bowel lining can become irritated and 'leaky' as the result of a much wider range of factors, including an overgrowth of yeast or bacteria in the bowel, a poor diet and the overuse of antibiotics.

They believe that undigested food particles, bacterial toxins and germs can pass through the "leaky" gut wall and into the bloodstream, triggering the immune system and causing persistent inflammation throughout the body.

Some scientists and sceptics believe that people who promote "leaky gut syndrome" are either misguided and read too much into the theory, or are deliberately misleading the public to make money from the "treatments" they sell.

The sorts of products sold online include diet books, nutritional supplements (containing probiotics, for example), gluten-free foods and other special diets, such as low sugar or antifungal diets. These have not been proven to be beneficial for many of the conditions they are claimed to help.

Some websites even promote various nutritional "treatments" for autism, despite conflicting evidence. A 2006 review explored the potential effect of manipulating the diet of people with autism, concluding that the dietary treatments were "cumbersome" and not proven to be effective.

Generally, eliminating foods from the diet is not a good idea unless it's strictly necessary (for example, if you have coeliac disease), as it can lead to nutritional deficiencies.

[kh924]

thanks. i am five days without sugar, caffeine, gluten, processed foods i figure it cant hurt and might even help. i'll post my progress for anyone who is interested

[jiml]

thanks. i am five days without sugar, caffeine, gluten, processed foods i figure it cant hurt and might even help. i'll post my progress for anyone who is interested

I wish I had the willpower to cut out those things but sadly I love my food.
I will certainly be interested in your progress, and will follow your posts

[Fred]

thanks. i am five days without sugar, caffeine, gluten, processed foods i figure it cant hurt and might even help. i'll post my progress for anyone who is interested

I'm 100% with you on processed foods

No it cant hurt to try as long as you monitor your health as we all need a good balanced diet.

Sugar: I don't use sugar as such, but it is hidden in so many things. So check what you are eating as even natural sugars count as sugar.

Caffeine: Wow well done, I could go without my double espresso in the morning and after my evening meal.

Gluten: Very difficult to avoid, it seems to be in so many things.

Please do post your progress as it may help others, we are all different. Me, I just couldn't do it.

[Bill]

Hi kh924,

My take on it is that the more out of control your psoriasis becomes, the more you are likely to get adverse reactions from foods. As examples I have had episodes of arthritis triggered by milk, skim milk powder (severe), and processed bread. While I still avoid these foods, I have noted that other foods which can act as triggers (like chocolate) have a much smaller effect now that the disease is abating. I will try some skim milk powder to test this idea if I can get rid of the last of my plaques, but at present I am not all that game to experience another polyarthropathy.

While I wish you every success with your efforts, for myself I view such measures as secondary to systemic therapies in moderate to severe cases of psoriasis.

Cheers,

Bill