problem with pagano

[Hanna]

Well firstly I don't think I spelt the name right lol

anyways...


some time ago (about 7yrs ago) pretty much most of my psoriasis cleared.
At that point in my life, I left my perents home, I started drinking alcohol most nights, I was stuck in a tiny room with my ex smoking LOTS of weed and his mates also, I was smoking fags like no tomorrow, I didn't give a second thought as to what I was eating and I can assure you apart from the odd orange juice it was all pretty much junk and sugar!!!

I left him...moved back home and yup psoriasis came back...

I moved out of home 2 years ago, at that point I stoppped my methotrexate and BAM my worst flare ever, wearing clothes (if I managed to dress myself) were painful :(

so I started cyclosprin, was on that for a year I stopped it in october and in septemember I started eating better and have also given up smoking for 2 months my lower lefs are just psoriasis, never had so much. My only saving grace is that it isn't thick at all!

Also I had P when I was 4yrs old and when in my teens just had it on my elbows.........I only ever ate sweets, like a whole bag of haribo for breakfast most days!!!! and my folks smoked all the time inside.

so if pagano is right surely I should be clearing now and should of had psoriasis worse than I do now in the times of my life that my lifestyle and diet were so bad!!!


My other issue is that the 7 yrs ago.....I had my 2nd lot of UVB previous and my psoriasis was comming back bad I was trying all sorts, I called the derm for an appointment and they said they would call me back Weeks had gone by with no call, so I just thought F'em they not helping. I still had loads of emotional stuff and was always thinking of killing myself.
but about a year or 2 after that point it started to clear by itself!!
Part of me can't help but feel maybe I should just grin and bare what my skin throws at me and not have UVB or any meds and see what happens!!


just thought I would share some of what I've been through!!

(also the whole nightshade thing.....I no thats it's all related to the deadly night shade etc....BUT if you think about it, if you ate an uncooked kidney bean that can make you really ill but cooked it's fine!!)

[Fred]

Good post Hanna, and you did spell it right. The problem I have with his ideas is I enjoy my food and drink, and I just can 't stick to it. the only thing I can say is, that giving up smoking hasn't helped me one bit regarding psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis.

I do still think it's a good theory about treating from the inside and some say it has worked for them. and most of the scam miracle cures out there are nothing more than what he talks about in his book, and his book is a lot cheaper. but unless you are willing to follow it to the letter and stick to it, I don't think it will work.

I have abused my body with all sorts of things in my life and and it's been fun, following Pagano to me just aint fun.

[Caroline]

Sussex that is relatively close to the Netherlands
You might try my cure if you are willing to.

*drinking a glass of Arnasseaux rosé*

[leopardless]

Hanna,


Have been offline a bit, do you get private mesasges?

[Hanna]

Have hopefully activated PM's

x

[leopardless]

Hanna,


Thanks, I wanted to share that I actually went to Dr. P and I did not have the patience, discipline to follow the regime he espoused. Great concept leaky gutt. But I dont know. My family found him. Nice enough man but wrapping up in caster oil wraps etc..ughhh greasy sweating clamy and burning, like adding oil to hot skillet of raw plaques. But softened flakes of skin.

When I lived in VA beach 1991, I went to the Edgar cayce Center...the whole routine...nothing I want to thoroughly recount...colonics and a gylcerine base solution..Did not have discipline at the time and I am not a pureist. I appreciated the opinions expressed- indeed.

Wishing you and everyone a scale free new year!!! Scales of Injustice Ball will be a venue I dream of creating someday..

Please e mail me if you are interested.. I am not fully American and EE citizen and I hear I am an okay person.

Bye for Now
LL

[Hanna]

Wow you met the Guy....thats cool!!

I have spoken with my derm about diet, and even she said if it really were that simple they would tell everyone to do it!!

And what is the deal with the whole poo/colonic obession he has???
It can't be good for you.......can it? I mean things are only ment to go in one direction!!

and going back to what he says, I don't have constipation issues and I'm not "overweight" so again that doesn't add up!!

hmmm 2012 I'm just going to eat healthy and that includes eating potatoes

[Caroline]

Wow you met the Guy....thats cool!!

I have spoken with my derm about diet, and even she said if it really were that simple they would tell everyone to do it!!

And what about this then? Coming from an earlier post of me: [color=#9400D3]"This guy, I think he is called Charles, follows a diet, completely the natural way.


Even more, it has already long been proven that psoriasis and arthritic psoriatica is an "immune" disease.
I doubt if dermatologists are the right kind of doctors to treat this. Even stronger said, I really think that we would be in better hands with a reumatologist or doctor for internal diseases and our metabolism.
The fact that above diet and medicines like MTX, stelara, fumaderm, psorinovo, cyclosporine, etc work against psoriasis is because they either shutdown a part of the immune system or add something to our metabolism that repairs a missing part. Both are parts of the internal human being and don't have a thing to do with our skin....

[Fred]

This reminds me of a thread I started on the old forum:

[Caroline]

You can only be convinced further on by trying yourself.
The proof can only be yourself.
I have also tried all kinds of things, until I found what for me works. And I came to the surprising conclusion that it helps for a lot of people (80%). Still you don't have to be convinced by that. Being convinced is in your own mind, it is not my task to convince you.
The only one I have to convince is the insurance and the medics. This will be done, in my case, by a scientific research. Reason is that insurance and medics do not believe me by my personal results and also not on my blue eyes.