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Undiagnosed psoriatic arthritis is high in patients with psoriasis

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Undiagnosed psoriatic arthritis is high in patients with psoriasis
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News  Tue-22-01-2019, 10:26 AM
This study suggests improved Psoriatic Arthritis (PsA) screening is needed in patients with Psoriasis (PsO)

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Background:
Despite increasing awareness of the disease, rates of undiagnosed psoriatic arthritis (PsA) are high in patients with psoriasis (PsO). The validated Psoriasis Epidemiology Screening Tool (PEST) is a 5‐item questionnaire developed to help identify PsA at an early stage.

Objectives:
To assess the risk of possible undiagnosed PsA among patients with PsO and characterize patients based on PEST scores.

Methods:
This study included all patients enrolled in the Corrona Psoriasis Registry with data on all 5 PEST questions. Demographics, clinical characteristics, and patient‐reported outcomes were compared in Corrona Psoriasis Registry patients with PEST scores ≥ 3 and < 3 using t‐tests for continuous variables and chi‐squared tests for categorical variables; scores ≥ 3 may indicate PsA.

Results:
Of 1516 patients with PsO, 904 did not have dermatologist‐reported PsA; 112 of these 904 patients (12.4%) scored ≥ 3 and were significantly older, female, less likely to be working, and had higher BMI than patients with scores < 3. They also had significantly longer PsO duration, were more likely to have nail PsO, and had worse health status, pain, fatigue, Dermatology Life Quality Index, and activity impairment.

Conclusions:
Improved PsA screening is needed in patients with PsO because the validated PEST identified over one‐tenth of registry patients who were not noted to have PsA as having scores ≥ 3, who could have had undiagnosed PsA. Appropriate, earlier care is important because these patients were more likely to have nail PsO, worse health‐related quality of life, and worse activity impairment.

Source: onlinelibrary.wiley.com

*Early view funding unknown.
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Tue-22-01-2019, 18:10 PM
What does the PEST test look like ?
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Tue-22-01-2019, 21:09 PM
(Tue-22-01-2019, 18:10 PM)D Foster Wrote: What does the PEST test look like ?

A waste of time in my opinion. You tick box's on a matchstick man of where it hurts, then you answer 5 questions.

Have you ever had a swollen joint (or joints)?
Has a doctor ever told you that you have arthritis?
Do your finger nails or toenails have holes or pits?
Have you had pain in your heel?
Have you had a finger or toe that was completely swollen and painful ?

At the end of it all if you score 3 + they will tell you what you already know and suggest you see a rheumatologist which is a waste of even more of your time.
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Tue-22-01-2019, 21:19 PM
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:09 PM)Fred Wrote:
(Tue-22-01-2019, 18:10 PM)D Foster Wrote: What does the PEST test look like ?

A waste of time in my opinion. You tick box's on a matchstick man of where it hurts, then you answer 5 questions.

Have you ever had a swollen joint (or joints)?
Has a doctor ever told you that you have arthritis?
Do your finger nails or toenails have holes or pits?
Have you had pain in your heel?
Have you had a finger or toe that was completely swollen and painful ?

At the end of it all if you score 3 + they will tell you what you already know and suggest you see a rheumatologist which is a waste of even more of your time.

Sounds like a load of old balls to me like so many similar ones , some pratt is making silly money justifying their salary by producing rubbish , NHS is full of them.
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Tue-22-01-2019, 21:24 PM
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:19 PM)D Foster Wrote: Sounds like a load of old balls to me like so many similar ones , some pratt is making silly money justifying their salary by producing rubbish , NHS is full of them.

It's not just the NHS Dave a lot of countries use these types of scales/tests but to be honest I doubt any of them give a true result. Only us the people know how we feel, and as we all know one day it will be fine and the next it is a nightmare. How the hell they expect to judge us on a piece of paper from one day is beyond me.
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Tue-22-01-2019, 21:31 PM
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:24 PM)Fred Wrote:
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:19 PM)D Foster Wrote: Sounds like a load of old balls to me like so many similar ones , some pratt is making silly money justifying their salary by producing rubbish , NHS is full of them.

It's not just the NHS Dave a lot of countries use these types of scales/tests but to be honest I doubt any of them give a true result. Only us the people know how we feel, and as we all know one day it will be fine and the next it is a nightmare. How the hell they expect to judge us on a piece of paper from one day is beyond me.

I truely agree....... eek eek

What I still don’t understand is that a rheumatologist is a sure waste of time. This is so apparantly not only in England, but also in France and the Netherlands.
What is wrong with those guys?? Doh
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Tue-22-01-2019, 21:38 PM
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:31 PM)Caroline Wrote: I truely agree.......  eek eek

What I still don’t understand is that a rheumatologist is a sure waste of time. This is so apparantly not only in England, but also in France and the Netherlands.
What is wrong with those guys?? Doh

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek we agree. eek

Rheumatologists just don't have a clue when it comes to psoriatic arthritis and going by Mrs Fred's problems they have no clue with anything. As for what is wrong with them .............. they don't have arthritis of any type and can't explain how it feels. And even if they did they know the treatments are rubbish and never going to work, but they have to follow the protocol and dish out pointless treatments that do nothing.

*To all potential rheumatologists reading this, go and pick another problem to study as you will not be liked by your patients if you continue in this line.
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Tue-22-01-2019, 21:52 PM
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:38 PM)Fred Wrote:
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:31 PM)Caroline Wrote: I truely agree.......  eek eek

What I still don’t understand is that a rheumatologist is a sure waste of time. This is so apparantly not only in England, but also in France and the Netherlands.
What is wrong with those guys?? Doh

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek we agree.  eek

Rheumatologists just don't have a clue when it comes to psoriatic arthritis and going by Mrs Fred's problems they have no clue with anything. As for what is wrong with them .............. they don't have arthritis of any type and can't explain how it feels. And even if they did they know the treatments are rubbish and never going to work, but they have to follow the protocol and dish out pointless treatments that do nothing.

*To all potential rheumatologists reading this, go and pick another problem to study as you will not be liked by your patients if you continue in this line.

Look I am extremely worried , we are all agreeing Tongue
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Tue-22-01-2019, 21:57 PM
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:52 PM)D Foster Wrote:
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:38 PM)Fred Wrote:
(Tue-22-01-2019, 21:31 PM)Caroline Wrote: I truely agree.......  eek eek

What I still don’t understand is that a rheumatologist is a sure waste of time. This is so apparantly not only in England, but also in France and the Netherlands.
What is wrong with those guys?? Doh

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek we agree.  eek

Rheumatologists just don't have a clue when it comes to psoriatic arthritis and going by Mrs Fred's problems they have no clue with anything. As for what is wrong with them .............. they don't have arthritis of any type and can't explain how it feels. And even if they did they know the treatments are rubbish and never going to work, but they have to follow the protocol and dish out pointless treatments that do nothing.

*To all potential rheumatologists reading this, go and pick another problem to study as you will not be liked by your patients if you continue in this line.

Look I am extremely worried , we are all agreeing  Tongue

Yes very unusual at Psoriasis Club Big Grin
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Wed-23-01-2019, 08:50 AM
Thats not a very good test - I only score two and I’ve been told I have psa by my derm and my rheumy.
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